This video isn't the gang fight mentioned in the story. It's the one making national news. Timmy asked to view it. Not for the faint of heart.
6:25 PM: No scanner needed. I just witnessed a gang fight at Morse and Wayne. 911 was called. When the officers arrived, the suspect fled from the police. Officers giving chase didn't stand a chance as the fleet-footed offender escaped before even being put on the hood. I too tried chasing the offender, but my dog didn't want to run along. Instead she locked up. (In Cota's defense, she was tired, we just got off work) As I tried to relay information about the other combatants, the police completely ignored it. If that's how they want to play, screw them. That's why I gave up going to CAPS.
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Maybe you should of gave the COP a donut, that might have gotten his attention more.
We need these streets safer. What do we have to do?
I was so disappointed in the police effort I email Chief Rottner on this one.
The whole strip of Wayne from Morse to Farwell is really turning into the new hellhole.
Craig, I don't know if it's just the 24th district cops or it's me, but CAPS (well, the meetings ONLY) seem to work, at least down here. I went to my Beat meeting last Wednesday evening and it amazed me to see the officers work with the residents about the issues.
It doesn't seem like that up in 24 at all, though, and I slide with you on this. If those cops who responded didn't want to do their work (sounds like they didn't), they should've just taken the night off.
Timmy, It's got to be 24 because I rarely have these issues when I deal with the police in the 23rd district.
Running after this guy today reminds me why I miss Deidre. She would've never locked up.
why in the freaking hell dont the cops listen to me?
didnt i mention there was a gang caucaus just the other night on wayne just north of farwell?
nice to see that others have noticed.
i just wanted to know that i wasnt alone.
dont mean to be so negative.
I cracked up (not too much) cause i was kindof pissed about everything happening around here and I talked to the owner of dukes and he said " gangbangers in RogersPark? Im shocked! "
i appreciate all your hard work on this blog past and present.
its not easy being mr broken heart.
sorry for being hard on you btw.
All I can hope for in your situation, Craig, is that Rottner gives you a good response. And that if you have to deal with the cops up in 24 sometime soon again, you get some better officers (I know they're out there) than last night. Good luck.
I know it probably isn't worth writing, but I wish these gangbangers would take a minute to think about WTF they are doing. They probably aren't the type of people that watch the news, but seeing that video of Derrion Albert being bludgeoned to death at the Fenger incident was absolutely jaw-dropping. These kids are killing one another and in the meantime we are all in danger of absorbing the stray bullets.
but I wish these gangbangers would take a minute to think about WTF they are doing.
Nah, not gonna happen. Not until they get caught (and even then they come out of jail smarter and bolder most times) or get killed. MAYBE if someone close to them gets killed they see the futility, but most of the time, as long as they can walk away, they learn nothing from what happenes to someone else. Regarding the Fenger student, they probably blame him and say either he shouldn't have been there (walking home, what a concept?) or should have joined one of the gangs and at least had one of the groups fighting on his side.
Gangbangers aren't the most analytical of thinkers.
Craig, I guess you didn't stick around, as usual... Because if you did you would have notice the police did catch the guy.
I was inside the chicken place at morse/wayne when the police came back with the guy that ran on them. They asked if anyone saw the fight and if they would sign complaints. Neither the owner of the restaurant nor the other people who saw the fight would sign complaints...? I would have signed but all I saw was the guy running from the police.
They asked if anyone saw the fight and if they would sign complaints.
Why would they bring the guy back, stand him there and ask if anyone wants to sign a complain against him? Of COURSE no one said yes. People are scared and rightly so. Large gangs brawling in the street in the middle of the afternoon...shootings in the early evening. People getting jumped for iPods and $10 while walking down busy Sheridan road. The gangs are acting with impunity so who would feel safe? Bring a photo of the guy and ask if someone wants to sign a complaint. But don't make the two parties confront each other just so the thug can ID the witness and alert his cohorts.
ms21, why is the death of Derrion "jaw-dropping" to you? I'm not saying I don't care because I do (and I'm sorry for his family's loss), but really, this happened in the wild wild 100s. Stuff like this happens down there all the time. I know people who live down there and they tell me about this stuff. It shouldn't happen, but it does. I just hope the residents and police work together to change it.
Was there an actual video of him getting beaten? Now that can be considered shocking if there is.
Makes me sick to watch. Cant wait till i can afford to get out of this hell hole we call Chicago.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/video_derrion_albert
BG, your link doesn't work.
Man On The Street, just letting you know that I agree with your comments here.
Link works great i think its user error......
I copied the link exactly how it is and pasted it into a new window, and it didn't work. It's not my error.
Link works for me too.
Craig, perhaps if you didn't call the cops names while talking to them, they'd listen to you?
I kid, I kid.
AvondaleBlotter,
Yeah, there is a video. If the link you were given doesn't work, you can find it anywhere. I originally found it on the tribune website (chicagotribune.com) and it has spread from there (cnn.com). The video brings another dimension of reality to it for me. I realize this stuff happens and it's not new, but it doesn't changed the fact that it is f-ed up.
Hey logan SQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99s28HLn6ZM
a video to prove the link is working. If you can view the link that is. or search for dgood48080 on youtube
The video is now on the front page..
My tech side is curious why the link is not working for you...
I've posted the group thug street rail-road tie beating on the home page.
ms21, I did what you did and searched for the video myself. I found it on FOX news' site. Also, yeah, I do agree that it's messed up. And yes, I'm shocked by the video.
Craig, thanks for putting the video up, though. I'm hoping other kids from Sullivan will take a look at it and it can show them how tragic gang fights can get so they can stop before that happens. We don't need another beating like that, not even on the side of town where this occurred.
Your Mayor is too busy having a party in Copenhagen to worry about such small stuff. I wonder if the IOC voters saw it!! Truly amazing that teenagers act like that - you have to wonder how they grew up.
@ RAZ
You Wonder?
They grew up just like their parents. The parents are just as responsible. That is the problem here, bad parenting! And the sad part is that its just a big circle of bad parenting that goes on and on until one of the parents makes the correct change. Which is usually never because they don't know any better.
Just a bad deal no matter how you look at it. I guarantee I would act the same if i was raised in an improper upbringing. I wouldnt know anybetter.
Thank God for my parents! Im turly grateful.
forward THAT video to the olympic commitee...
Everyone in the world who watches news has seen it by now.
Jiminy Junk-
Ha,ha,ha. That was some of the funniest stuff I ever read. How long did it take you to think of it? I'll bet you even think all blacks have guns or that all Puerto Ricans have knives. Jiminy, not all Policemen love donuts. I myself haven't had one since the early eighties. But go ahead, stay up late burning the midnite oil thinking of ways to promote the various stereotypes.
Asshat!
This video is disturbing, frightening and sad---children who have no idea yet what dead really is, or what grief is, beating and killing one another. But there is something else.
The person video taping this melee. Presumably an adult, presumably the only one there yet all he did (as far as I can see here) was keep his finger on the "tape" button and gasp "Damn!" each time a child's head was cracked, their body falling to the pavement.
People can point to parents, claim this and other ills are the product of bad parenting. That's easy and it may be a part of the explanation but it is not the whole. The other part, the larger part is in the streets and evidenced on this video. A guy with a camera watching and framing as you do when playing a video game. Maybe it's something worse. Maybe this carnage is controversial enough to earn him some money.
Seems to me we need to think about who WE are in these events, maybe just as much if not more than who the children are. I understand the explosive feelings that probably led up to this fight; I don't understand the bystanding adults.
Think of the video photo as a war photographer. Had it not been for this person filming, we wouldn't have been able to witness the carnage with our own eyes.
Big Daddy, I apologize for the donut comment, that was cheap and out of frustration.
I don't think so. A war journalist has no hope of changing what's before him or her. At least not in the moment. In this instance, one adult could have made all the difference. Instead, he chose to be a voyeuristic bystander.
Jiminy Junk-
Apology accepted.
Also-I thought I saw a dark skinned hispanic male selling dope on the corner of Pratt & Lakewood. He was walking back & forth from passing cars carrying a wad of cash. Why is this area suddenly becoming so bad? Or am I just paranoid?
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