Two employees and two patrons of a Rogers Park Giordano's restaurant were robbed at gunpoint by two men who entered the eatery and ordered them to the floor about lunchtime Wednesday on the North Side.
About 1:30 p.m., the two suspects dressed in black came into the restaurant on the 6800 block of North Sheridan Road and announced a robbery, ordering some victims to the floor, Rogers Park District police Lt. John Franklin said. Source/Read more.
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I wonder if that CPD camera on the corner of Pratt and Sheridan caught anything
That's kind of a jaw-dropper for me. I know, I am naive, but damn. At 1:30 in the afternoon -- probably just a handful of Loyola kids in there studying and having a bite. Can't be a very lucrative snag for these thugs.
Then again, it's gotten to the point where three of them will jump a jogger for his IPOD mini.
They were black under the clothing too.
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hmmmmm.
thats all thats allowed from up on high.....
Wow police go in there to eat all the time - too bad there wasn't one in there that took them to the ground! Even with two big dogs I'm carrying my mace handy these days, although I would rather it was a gun!
Read the article, those descriptions could be any of the thugs that wander around up here. Let's hope someone knows the vehicle description - too bad somebody didn't have a gun under their jacket.
A friend told me that Alberto's on Morse would never get robbed because the business is controlled by a mob called the Brazer. . . "And they fight with the GDs, BPSN, LKs, and Ashland Vikings," he says.
My bud also thinks Alberto's pizza is pretty good. Alberto's also gets a lot of cancelled orders, so when you go there or call there, it's always a good idea to check to see if they have an undelivered pizza they will sell you for a discount.
If Alberto's is run by a mob, maybe it's worth thinking about NOT supporting thier business.
They were black under the clothing too.
Thanks for that extra insight, Columbo. Too bad they didn't mention that in the news article. Oh, wait,it was. Oh, well, it wasn't like you were going to use that time you took to post that for anything useful, am I right or am I right?
Ah, if only the owner or manager had a sawed off under the counter this could have been a story with a happy ending.
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Daddy, if you're a business owner who gets held up, do you have the right to shoot the losers in the back on their way out the door to recover your money?
I think you SHOULD. But I recall a business owner in MO being put on trial for murder for doing this about 35 years ago. The robber's take was this guy's bare-bones livelihood- he owned a struggling little ghetto convenience store. I never learned the outcome of the trial.
Daddy, if you're a business owner who gets held up, do you have the right to shoot the losers in the back on their way out the door to recover your money?
I'm definitely no expert like BD, but I'm going to guess no. I think a court might rule that if they're on the way out the door or out on the street, the threat to your life is over and you don't have the right to shoot them. I think there was a case a couple of years ago in Michigan in which some guy robbed a store with a gun, was running away down the street and the owner shot and killed him. They ruled that it wasn't self-defense since the threat was over. And I even think the family sued the store owner saying he was running away so there was no need to shoot him (they didn't address the issue of their relative pointing a gun at someone and robbing them in the first place, but there you go).
Bottom line: If you have the chance, I guess you got to shoot them in the store. Look for your opening.
Maybe it would be best if the store owner could have the gun on his belt, displayed prominently, so as to head off trouble before it starts, rather than in a holster behind the counter.
I heard of a NYC produce stand owner who does that. When people enter his store, he has his hand very close to the gun at his waist, and looks at them meaningfully as if to say, "just TRY it". He has had no problems as a result.
Could it be a weapon displayed prominently along with gestures that convey that you are willing to use it, could be more of a deterrent to assailants than a concealed weapon?
MOS is correct. When the robber turns and is leaving the store, you are no longer in danger negating any need to shoot him. But then again, if you did shoot him and you were charged, there's no telling what a good criminal defense lawyer can do. Look what Johnnie Cochran did for OJ. After seeing that, I am now firmly convinced that anything is possible in a courtroom. But why put yourself through it. Get a good description, call the po po and let us handle it. Then thank God you were not hurt.
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