They made a BOLD HEADING, making the Alderman's name real huge just in case we didn't know who he is. They added what ward our Alderman was from just in case you don't know what ward you are in. The press release also shows he is a D in front of the ward number. That stands for democrat. This is very important when holding a political, oops I mean community meeting.
They came clean that Connie Abels owns the property. The new press release takes out a few numbers about square footage Hugh pointed out not being totally accurate in the comments section.
Then the new press release gives his now famous motto, It's not a done deal" while also mentioning, " the site would be demolished to make way for the development."
No mention in the press release/infomercial of the " Hint of possible influence".
Alderman Joe Moore (D-49) announced today he will hold a community meeting to review a proposal to redevelop the property located at 7015 N Sheridan Rd with a seven-story mixed use building, containing four residential dwelling units, 4,500 square feet of commercial space and 30 parking stalls.
The meeting will be held at the Loyola Park Fieldhouse, 1230 W. Greenleaf, on Wed., Feb. 1st at 7:00 p.m.
A single family residence, which currently sits on the site, would be demolished to make way for the development. The developer, longtime Rogers Park resident Connie Abels, once resided in the home. The property is currently zoned RT4, which allows for the development of a residential building of up to six units with a height no greater than 42 feet. Abels is applying for a planned development designation for the property that would allow for commercial space and a 79-foot, seven story building.
The proposed zoning change must receive City Council approval. The project also requires approval by the Chicago Plan Commission under the Lakefront Protection Ordinance.
The proposal is currently being considered by the 49th Ward Zoning and Land Use Advisory Committee. I look forward to hearing from the community, and will only support the project if it enjoys substantial community support, said Moore.
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hugh caught too many of joeys errors. joey had to correct them. lol.
" Hint of possible influence".
Where?
I hear that the Alderman's Zoning/Advisory Commitee has very large reservations about recommending their support for this and as far as I know have not. (no rubber stamp my friends).......I hear the concerns pro/con regarding the height and what that "means" for the area and Sheridan rd in general.
So Joe is asking his ward to share their opinions regarding such a project and it's impact?
Why in the hell-hole do any of you ( Craig) have a problem with this? You know damn well it is Joe's call.
Explain to me how holding this meeting is anything but a good one?
Sheesh this is better than Comedy Central.
> I hear that the Alderman's Zoning/Advisory Commitee has very large reservations about recommending their support for this ...
Too bad we have to rely on rumors instead of looking it up online llke Ald. Tunney's constituents can.
Alderman Tom Tunney 44th Ward (Democrat): Zoning web site
> " Hint of possible influence".Where?
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> ... Joe is asking his ward to share their opinions regarding such a project and it's impact ...
Joe is asking us to share his opinion about the project.
I'm going to continue to hand out this "flyer", which I know you won't remove based on your principles:
Regarding your "Butt family" post:
I know Dan Butt. He is no relation to Tariq Butt. You clearly didn't even investigate the truth of your claims. By posting this unfounded nonsense, you strip yourself of any credablity whatsoever. If you want people to take you seriously, at least do a little research. To save you some future embarassment, here's something to keep in mind: Ashley and Jessica Simpson are not Homer's daughters, they just have the same family name.
Anyway try not to be too embarrased, young children probably jump to similar conclusions all the time.
Keep up the incredible reporting, genius!
So........
Campaign contribution=Influence?
In some but not in most circumstances.
Hmm Got Any Gum?
> hugh caught too many of joeys errors. joey had to correct them. lol.
They even corrected one I hadn't gotten to yet. I'll get to it now.
> ... the developer is seeking to apply for zoning relief under a planned development with underlying zoning designation of B3-5 ...
When Our Fair City passed our zoning laws, of course they didn't want regulate themselves. So they gave themselves an escape clause: the planned development. The City reserved the right to declare any given area in the city a planned development. This in effect takes the property off the zoning map. The project becomes a special case. All bets are off. The regulations in the zoning laws go out the window. The laws no longer protect neighbors. The developer can do anything he can convince the Department of Planning and Development (also known as the Mayor's Office to Promote Real Estate Development, MOPRED) and the City Council to go along with, which these days, in this climate, is just about anything.
The idea that a planned development has an "underlying zoning designation" is irrelevant.
Planned Developments
Planned Developments
Moore wrote:
> I look forward to hearing from the community, and will only support the project if it enjoys substantial community support
On the Adelphi proposal, Moore listened and what he heard was that the neighborhood was in favor of tearing down the Adelphi for 5 stories of luxury condos, all it needed was a few affordable set-asides.
Watch as Moore trims back Abel's project slightly in some inconsequential area and pronounces it a triumph of community involvement.
Moore wrote:
> I ... will only support the project if it enjoys substantial community support
substantial is in some?
> ... Abels, once resided in the home.
Of course she did! She HAD to. When you sign a standard, owner-occupied rate home mortgage, you attest you will move in, however briefly.
... "his now famous motto, It's not a done deal" ...
We've heard that before. We've also heard,
... "if it goes to the City Council, and I support it .. it will pass"
sidenote: also watch out for the "wink and a handshake"
I almost forgot this classic ...
..."This is a proposed project, that's why were having this meeting"
joey has let the ward go to hell in a handbasket when joey allows charlie to be the zoning speaker. not a rubber stamp means a rubberstamp. this is a done deal and we all know it.
The Citizens for the Adelphi Theater are quick learners.
talk about yer school of hard knocks
Connie Abels ran her home to the ground. If she can't take care of her home how are we going to trust her to take on the massive 7 story project?
don't worry, she's not the REAL developer
Alderman Moore's (D-49) "Rubber Stamp" Zoning And Land Use Advisory Committee (ZALUAC)
Kevin O'Neil
Chairman, Zoning And Land Use Advisory Committee
Secretary, Board of Directors, DevCorp North
Chairman, Publicity and Public Relations Committee, DevCorp North
Past President, DevCorp North
Dorothy Gregory
President, Board of Directors, DevCorp North
Moore contributor
Rich Aronson
Board of Directors, DevCorp North
Secretary, Rogers Park Builders Group
Real Estate Broker, Camelot Realty of America, Inc.
Moore contributor
Joanna Barnhart
Howard SSA manager, DevCorp North
Board of Directors, Rogers Park Builders Group
David Fagus
49th Ward Democratic Committeeman
Board of Directors, DevCorp North
Moore contributor
Charese L. Jordan
Past President, DevCorp North
Member, DevCorp North
Past Treasurer, Democratic Party of the 49th Ward
Past Chief of Staff, Alderman Joe Moore
Citizens for Joe Moore paid campaign consultant
Michael Land
Staff Assistant, Alderman Joe Moore
Member, DevCorp North
Advisor, Rogers Park Builders Group
Resident of the 50th ward
Michael Glasser ( Charlie D's boss)
Member, DevCorp North
President, Rogers Park Builders Group
President, Magellen Properties
Owner, Birchwood Manor Apartments, 1227-37 West Jarvis
Michael James
Owner, Heartland Caf�
Board of Directors, DevCorp North
Jay Johnson
Owner, Howard Theater, Uptown Theater, Wayne Senior Center, Morse Senior Center, and others.
Howard-Paulina TIF beneficiary
Moore contributor
John Fitzgerald
Associate Director, Howard Area Community Center
Richard Moran
Board of Directors, Rogers Park Community Council
To bad Craig has to post this.
To bad we can't look up the members of the Alderman's zoning committee online like Ald. Tom Tunney's (44th, Democrat) contituents can:
44th Ward Community Directed Development Council
"Hugh said...
don't worry, she's not the REAL developer"
who is the real developer, hugh?
To repeat: Connie Abels (real name) lived it it for years with her daughter. It is ratty because the agency which rented it from her did not take care of it. There is at least one nine story coop on that block, facing Lunt Ave. Craig, your zoning list is out of date I think. Check it out.
This community of bloggers is becoming mean and paranoid!
Claims to Been There-Done That said.......>" It is ratty because the agency which rented it from her did not take care of it."
From your discription Connie Abel (her real name) sounds like a deadbeat landlord who doesn't know how to screen/choose tenants.
Claims to Been There-Done That said......>"This community of bloggers is becoming mean and paranoid"!
Ever try to buy a property from Connie Abels (her real name) and....
1) put down a deposit on one of her units.....(7400 block of North WInchester)
2) not here from her for weeks...
3) find out the construction project was put on hold and couldn't be sold because of permit problems....
4) have to track her down to return the deposit, also scramble to relocate another condo.
I have. After that, it's easy to become paranoid about Connie Abels and her projects.
craig...you're holding out on us! :) you bought a condo from connie abels and went through all that?? tell us more...when?, did you report her? was she the developer? did she get busted for it? inquiring minds want to know!
Hugh said: To bad Craig has to post this.
To bad we can't look up the members of the Alderman's zoning committee online like Ald. Tom Tunney's (44th, Democrat) contituents can:
On this point Hugh...I have no argument.
A question for Bill Morton:
I am in no way trying to pick a fight with you.......I wish you could have realized your dream. I really do.
I am just curious to know if you would be willing to share with us exactly how much money you had raised and guaranteed to purchase the theatre? Also how much of that $ if not all of it was there only if you were able to secure "Historical Significance" status for the structure.?
If you care not to share that info I respect your decision.
Thanks
rogerparker said:joey has let the ward go to hell in a handbasket when joey allows charlie to be the zoning speaker. not a rubber stamp means a rubberstamp. this is a done deal and we all know it.
Might you share just how it is we all know this?
I am all ears....
Thomas........Trilateral Commission? Of course the Trilateral Commission. Jeez I am such an idiot! I forgot to renew my subscription and I never got that issue.
Thanks for the remider Tom.
OK note to self: renew........
WV=dfomc or if you will DOM FC
Hey Craig, I would NEVER buy a condo from Connie Abel or Abels. I have heard from people who have done work for her that that would be darn foolish. I think however, that buying a home in 1990 is somewhat different than buying one in 2000. No reasonable hope of gentrification in 1990, lots of expectation in 2000. Fair is fair.
You know, you people really pick on Joe Moore without much fact checking. You see problems that exist only in the ether.
Here’s some new things you can accuse Joe Moore of:
Joe Moore sneezes, potential exchange of bodily fluids creates bio hazard.
Joe Moore steps on crack, breaks his mother’s back
Joe Moore farts underwater in Lake Michigan, creates tsunami that wipes out Roger Park but cleans the beaches in Edgewater and Evanston.
Joe Moore’s plan to save Chicago schools, use children as speed bumps.
Joe Moore locks his keys in the car, takes three hours to get his wife and kids out.
Joe Moore caught registering fleeing rats from the Adelphi Theatre as new voters.
Joe Moore found panhandling at Morse El Stop, forgets to report spare change as contributions.
Can’t you guys have any fun? I think I’ll inhale a little more ether. Bye Bye cry babies
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Moore Discovers Internet
In an historic move, current Alderman Joe Moore (R, 49th), in the 14 year of his reign, posted a notice of a zoning meeting on his web site.
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Kevin O'Neil
Dorothy Gregory
Rich Aronson
Joanna Barnhart
David Fagus
Charese L. Jordan
Michael Land
Michael Glasser
Michael James
Jay Johnson
John Fitzgerald
Richard Moran
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I'm getting confused. It must be the toxic fumes. Is this a list of the rats fleeing the Adelphi?
interesting story on rogerspark.org...
Bull Dozers Attack our Lakefront!
Thirteen street-end beaches located in Rogers Park are under attack by private developers who plan to build high-rises that will block the view and use our lakefront. In checking with the City of Chicago, we were notified that these beaches are not owned by the people -- but are for sale to the highest bidder! Should this atrocity continue, we will not be able to enjoy a walk on the beach, witness a sunrise, or play on what should be park land.
Sounds like the Orson Wells drama of Martians attacking. This is reality . . . or was in 1952. Back then, all Rogers Parkers could talk about was the loss of our beaches. In order to stop the siege on one of our greatest community assets, neighbors pulled together and fought for the right to have public space. They organized . . . they won . . . and that was the beginning of the Rogers Park Community Council.
Rogers Park is one of Chicago’s most unique communities. No where else will you find more committed people who believe they make difference. This belief translates into action and those actions into success. In 1952, neighbors found bulldozers preparing open land for the development of apartment buildings. Everyone wrongly believed the street-end beaches were park space. Neighbors called upon the City of Chicago to purchase these lots and protect them as public space for our children and grandchildren. If no one took on this battle, we would have the same type of canyonization that the Edgewater community enjoys along Sheridan Road. We too could have little or no access to our lakefront.
One of the most effective organizing tools has become part of Rogers Park lore. Neighbors mailed hundreds of bags of sand to Mayor Richard J. Daley. It took more than eight years for all 13 lots to be acquired by the City and protected. It is the dedication of community activists that allows each of us the opportunity to enjoy lakefront picnics, fishing, and Chicago’s finest watersport programs! And every day, we thank them for their foresight.
In addition to protection through acquisition, members of the Rogers Park Community Council also worked to protect our lakefront through legislation, the "Lakefront Protection Ordinance". An RPCC committee made 13 recommendations to the City which are included in this landmark ordinance. The Lake Michigan and Chicago Lakefront Protection Ordinance designates a district which governs uses and developments along our lakefront. Ordinance provisions include pedestrian access to the Lake and that lakefront parks are devoted to public purposes. Today, if anyone wants to build on Sheridan Road east, they must apply to the City’s Plan Commission for approval under lakefront protection. Since the '70's, Rogers Parkers regularly testify, support and oppose projects that would jeopardize our access to Lake Michigan.
The zealots who saved our beaches came together to form the Rogers Park Community Council. As per our by-laws, the RPCC shall be organized "for social, civic and educational purposes which foster health and welfare, urban renewal and conservation, law enforcement, and community organization. So what does that mean? It means we are a community advocate and neighborhood watchdog! It means we work with you, our neighbors, to make Rogers Park a great place to live, work and raise a family. It means that we believe people can and will make a difference.
Become a Member today and work with us to make Rogers Park a great place to live.
Since 1952, the RPCC's activities have ranged from community advocacy for lakefront protection to community development. Today our programs address community needs such as:
vote no
Hey Charlie,
Why did you say it's Joe's call? What did you mean by that....
Julie
Rogers Park Conservancy did a lakefront study.
http://www.urbsinhorto.org/images/Community_Needs_Assessment.pdf
In the exceutive summary, they said in part "participants urged against commercialization and privatization on the lakefront or elsewhere."
They were also adamant that they anted No TALL BUILDINGS ON SHERIDAN
If Hugh is right, and looking at the zoning map it looks like he is, this won't be the last tall building on Sheridan Rd.
Go by there - then tell me how they are going to put up a building with 30 parking spaces for SUVs 4500 sq ft of retail and 4 dwelling units on 7000 sq ft of very cramped land. It's impossible unless they have the building next door which has been for sale since 1998.
VOTE NO!!! Unless you want to thread your way through a dark, canyon-like S. Sheridan one day......very soon.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot......
this is what planning is all about:
The Plan implicitly condemns here what it sees as the dangerous excesses of capitalism, an institution with which the Commercial Club was certainly allied. The Plan speaks with surprising directness of the city's need and right to place limits on speculators and land owners. It does so not only when it states that the lakefront "by right belongs to the people," but also when it defends the public appropriation of private property needed to widen streets and to eradicate threats to sanitation and health. "It is no attack on private property," the Plan contends, "to argue that society has the inherent right to protect itself against abuses." If society does not exercise this right, the planners warn, it might be necessary to resort to socialism in some form. Chicago, unlike London, has not yet reached the point at which the city must intervene and provide housing for people living in unacceptable conditions. Unless timely action is taken, however, "such a course will be required in common justice to men and women so degraded by long life in the slums that they have lost all power of caring for themselves."
Axis of Chicago
There are moments when the Plan even raises the possibility that city life is by its nature degrading to all people, not just the helplessly impoverished. Wage earners as well as the well-to-do need access to parks because "[d]ensity of population beyond a certain point results in disorder, vice, and disease, and thereby becomes the greatest menace to the well-being of the city itself." "Natural scenery," on the other hand, "furnishes the contrasting element to the artificiality of the city," a refuge "where mind and body are restored to a normal condition, and we are enabled to take up the burden of life in our crowded streets and endless stretches of buildings with renewed vigor and hopefulness." These remarks recall the anti-urban sentiment behind Daniel Burnham's decision to raise his children outside of the city, by the woods and lake in bucolic Evanston. "He who habitually comes in close contact with nature," the Plan observes, "develops saner methods of thought than can be the case when one is habitually shut up within the walls of a city."
The discussions of slums and parks express the planners' profound belief that a person's surroundings determine his or her behavior. Time and again the Plan speaks of how terrible living conditions diminish the individual and, by extension, the entire city, and so should be of concern to the prosperous as well as the less fortunate. It speaks of the slums on the Near West Side as a "cosmopolitan district inhabited by a mixture of races living amid surroundings which are a menace to the moral and physical health of the community." There is as much alarm as sympathy in such passages. At times the Plan seems to advocate, as some reformers did, removing poor city children from their squalid home life and, by implication, from the negative influence of their parents to places where they can be inculcated with higher morals and values. It advocates constructing attractive public school buildings and playgrounds, so that "during all the year the school premises shall be the children's center, to which each child will become attached by those ties of remembrance that are restraining influences throughout life."
Michigan Avenue, Looking Toward the South, and to Europe
Such passages reflect the authors' view that one of the many purposes of city planning was control of the urban masses. While the Plan of Chicago 's central theme is how best to deal with rapid change in one of the most dynamic cities in the world, it is a remarkably conservative document that hopes to infuse in the public at large a belief in the status quo, in the social and economic hierarchy in which the planners are at the top. To give Burnham, Bennett, and the Commercial Club proper credit, however, they were sincere in their civic-mindedness. They backed their rhetoric with their time and their money, serving on the boards of any number of charitable and social services agencies. Whatever their own blind spots, they were generous in their instincts, realizing that any plan worth the name had to deal with the needs of the entire population.
to read the history:
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/10537.html
I vote for the scenario following: Ask for an outrageously tall building on Sheridan, knowing Joe will turn it down, then buy (or admit that you've bought) the building to the south, tear it down and build God Knows What on both lots. Possibly get PUD status to get around the zoning. Connie Abels does not play well with others, just ask Bill Markle, architect/developer of the building in which her office is located on Morse Ave.
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