Monday, February 19, 2007
* No 'Living Wage' on Howard Street
This is what people call a Progressive Rogers Park! This is what the left-wing wants!
On Howard Street, you'll find no real commerce. You will find a lot of empty storefronts, social service agencies and vacant lots.
Nan Paton asks if anyone on Howard Street got notice of the economic forum. Note to Nan, view the video and notice if there is anyone to tell about a economic fourm?
Click the short 90 second documentary video to find out what Alderman Moore is really fighting for when he says he's fighting for a 'living wage.'
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Where-as - If you're happy with the current direction of Howard Street and Morse Avenue,
Where-as - if you're happy to see these streets continue to fall into a deeper, slum-like, third world commerce state,
It is proclaimed - by all means, Vote Joe Moore.
another stupid post from a republican light...person.
I actually read someone say Moore is for big government. Of course the fed has grown way big under bush including the advance of big brother, and corp power, but some people are so republican they can only repeat crap they heard their parents say, the problem is big government...Craig why don't you tell us how you support bush and all republican ideal. Not that there's anything wrong with it (right Kramer) but your position is clear the more your keyboard hums.
Roxy
Republican or Democrat? Unfortunately our federal politics has blurred further an already blurry line in a two-party system. Leaving very little in the way of real choice.
Just as unfortunate is the yellow journalism displayed in this blog. I've done some research and it's all very clear to me who works very hard to spread propaganda meant to provoke and spur fear.
There is a big difference between these homonyms:
incite and insight
You are so right aldie, it wasn't really Joe/Dave/Alex who sent the email as 'progressive democrats'. It was really someone else.
I wonder how many of Joe's developer funding friends (some are suburbanites) are republican? I guess that doesn't apply since the $ is to Joe and for the greater good of RP?
What's he done for you lately?
Joe brough me pastries. That's what He's done for me lately.
Absolutely correct, Craig! Don't try to fix the Democratic Party. Don't try to be better Democrats. People in Rogers Park should abandon the Democratic Party completely and join the Republican Party. Vote Adams! Vote Gordon!
Intern, be sure none of those pastries has a cream filling. Also, avoid dark colored clothing.
Yo miss intern let me tell you about the difference.
Republicans use religion, race and homophobia to divide and conquer, and they like the likes of Bob Jones (no interracial dating) Jerry Farwell (do you really need an example here?) Pat Robertson, oh and People like Mississippi governor Barbour and the guy from Alabama, Sonny Perdue in Atlanta, all those guys hang with closeted klan members and white power groups (Ok you can give me Sen. Bird...but the others are doing it right now today) Democrats use income, class, and gender to win elections. Let me know when you'd like another lesson in American politics...oh did I mention the solid south, Jim Crow and Lee Atwater? All people who go for the Nader crap that Gore and Bush are the same...how do you like him now?
Roxy
You're 100% correct, mcinoh, and you put it in a more politically correct way than I did.
Political correctness is not my strong suit, which is why I will never hold public office.
I could add that we can have a true mixed-income community and I believe that we will have that no matter what, and I believe that most of our low-wage earners make a positive contribution. However, there are certain types of people no neighborhood can accomodate, and thanks to the slumlords and certain social service providers, we have way too many of those types of people.
mcloh,
So Moore is out there keeping the poor poor. I knew it. Finally we have the worlds answer to poverty, elect Adams or Gordon and the poor will be uplifted and the birds will sing and the section 8 people will make themselves employable and begin to raise their kids with education and civic concerns.
You know I think there are poor people in a few other wards...so maybe we should just make Adams or Gordon king, that was they can banish the evil Moore and lead this nations to enternal bliss.
MissyIntern, since Moore brings you pastry maybe you can tell us how he keeps the poor folk down.
If only those developers were not in the picture, hell we could just tear down every new building in RP and and reconvert those condos to crappy low rent apt (like the one I lived in for 14 years) freaking developers ruin everything. I guess the same developers just don't want to develop on Howard st. Maybe they don't have armed humvees and don't want to risk the area. Developers are such cowards.
After 8 years of Bush, 6 of it all republican all day, I'm stunned that people still (after Nader puked on the green party) think repubs and dems are the same people...you haven't been paying attention. But thats' another story for another blog...have fun people the election is almost here.
Roxy
north coast did the slum lords make the people as you say that 'no neighborhood can accomodate' or do they move toward the housing that they can afford, and then that housing becomes slum..i.e. low, very low wage earners create the need for low income housing, not the other way around, and you seem so smart. The real deal is not at the aldermans feet, its a system that allows human being to be forced into an underclass that can't right itself under any thing local. I can't believe I'm writing this but here goes, look to Washington not Chicago, thats where the problems we're all fighting about begin.
Roxy
Everyone,
For those who don't know, all 4 candidates will be appearing in a live televised debate tonight, on WTTW Channel 11 at 7pm (Chicago Tonight w/ Carol Marin). If you're not already 150% behind a specific candidate, this debate is a great way to find out where each candidate stands on these issues, in their own words. Go into things with an open mind, who knows, you might be surprised. If you haven't gotten out to the live local forums, no more excuses-- you don't even have to leave your living room for this one.
Full disclosure: I support Ginderske for Alderman.
> So Moore is out there keeping the poor poor. I knew it.
Thanks for figuring it out Roxy! Look at JoMo's line-up of social service agencies and how well they transition people. Look at the training sessions that are in place that should be similar to the corporate world's 'continuing education' if one wants to maintain or progress to a higher position.
As it is, we'll see signs for blood pressure, dental checkups, and yes, HACC has job training, but no one is in the least bit 'pressured' to see the light and get out. It's pretty easy, cozy and an enabling of the status quo. Some of the agency directors have a nice cushy $60-$89k salary while the hired help scrapes by on $20k a year. It's a totally unbalanced system fed by the department of human services...sign that sheet and the money comes in. Don't teach people how to improve themselves, how to be a good neighbor, how to fit into society...just toss turkeys at them, tell them how to vote, and tell them 'those' people are going to run them out of town.
That's what no one wants to admit. The truth of enabling the status quo which is part of the Moore Machine. The sad part is that most of the agencies have to suck up to Moore to get money. When have you seen your hero hold a seminar on human rights? He doesn't, he 'delegates' it to his agencies to conduct.
That's why some regular people have gotten a little tired of the status quo under JoMo. Again, it's like giving chocolate to a diabetic...it doesn't improve the condition.
Then we have people like Ronen and agencies trying to open yet another facility on Howard Street.
Yes, Roxy, that's how it's been for a long time.
I agree with how pathetic W Howard Street looks!! What an embarassment!! It needs to be cleaned up and NOW!! My daughter and son-in-law recently bought a condo and moved to Roger Park from their Edgewater apartment. They wanted a culturally diverse neighborhood and had heard that Rogers Park would be an up and coming area!!! While their condo is very nice for a starter home and something a young couple can afford and still live in the city I was shocked how with how seedy the area is. There are few places to dine or shop!!! The places that are there look so run down. How many check cashing places does an area need?? Young thugs and druggies are roaming about every corner and alley. Tagging and litter seems to be a real problems that need to be addressed. I loved walking in their previous neighborhood up and down Broadway north and south from Thorndale to various places to eat and shop when I would come to Chicago. There are many ethnic places to dine in the Edgewater neighborhood. I always felt comfortable walking through that neighborhood, even alone. My daughter didn't want me to take my granddaughter for a walk alone around their Roger's Park neighborhood last time I visited. No more taking a quick walk to the neighborhood grocers after dark. In the two months they have had their bike stolen...The chain of the was cut...In their three years in Edgewater nothing like this at all. There is a strong sewer gas smell in their condo...Probably from the manhole directly behind their place but no one has come out to take a look. I am hoping my daughter will get involved in her neighborhood association and work for the betterment of Rogers Park!!!
Holly Hock,
The first step they can take is to vote on Feb 27. And don't vote for Jim Ginderske or Joe Moore.
hollyhock,
I emphatize with you. When my daughter and husband come from out of state they look around and think I need to move, and I refuse. I invested and that's that. The 'powers that be' have not been doing their job. Up here the task of cleaning up the hood is delegated back to us. So we can work all day and come home and clean up trash, do neighborhood watches, while our leader frets about stopping the war in Iran and other worldly affairs. He's forgotten what his job is.
Best of luck to your family and I hope that the streets will soon be walkable for your visits.
Hey Craig -- I thought you said you read Toni's blog? Well then you must have missed her post about how Robert Coe bought up half that 1500 block of Howard and plans a five-story, mixed use building with 28 units. Yes, imagine that! Development on Howard where you say it's vacant. Well it's vacant my good buddy till he gets his permits to build:
http://howardwatchers.blogspot.com/2006/12/coes-coming-to-town.html
Oh yeah, and that other "vacant" building by the alley and the empty lot are owned by the Wisdom Bridge Art Committee. Toni wrote about them too:
http://howardwatchers.blogspot.com/2006/08/wisdom-bridge-arts-project-meeting.html
But of course, you wouldn't want to tell the truth about what's really hapnin' on Howard would you?
Of course, you sitll think Morse is a hellhole even though a big supporter of your pal Don Gordon -- Andy Magahee -- is showing his confidence in Morse as a destination street by investing millions to build his jazz supper club in the 1300 block at the old cobbler mall. Practically next door to the dreaded Block building.
And Morse is still a Hellhole even though Coe is building 12 units of condos at Morse and Greenview for up $500 grand.
And Morse is a still hellhole despite Common Grounds building a new coffeehouse at Morse and Greenview.
Yep, hell hole.
NAY-Bore
How long did I quote Coe on getting the permits, testing and start to finish time? If it sits as long as the hole on Morse then Craig can complain.
Until then ITS VACANT AND BOARDED UP WITH TRASH POSTERS ON IT.
And the Lerner building and lot is still vacant. And so is most of the rest of the street to the El.
rpnaybor, you are a little behind the times.
The rest of us attended a meeting about the Coe project of which you speak, over two months ago. We saw the renderings and the floor plans and heard Coe speak.
I mean, where have you BEEN, already. Wake up.
Coe should be made to clean that mess on Howard up and keep it clean until he can get his new bldg. up.
I like his building perfectly well, it's HIM I have problems with. This guy has proven he needs ongoing supervision to make sure his building sites are secure and his fences are lying on the ground, and I guess we will have to sit on him about the property on Howard, to keep it decently clean and secure.
Toni and north coast -- my point is that you can't say an area is blighted and run-down and vacant and lacking development when there are plans under review right now in the Building Dept. for a 28-unit condo building to go up on that same property. It's just a flat-out lie. Seems like Craig is good at that.
rp naybor, how can you walk down Howard St and view it as it is at this moment and say it's NOT blighted?
As it sits at this moment,it is deeply blighted- a ruined, dirty, empty, dangerous stretch of decrepit buildings and brown lots.
It shouldn't have taken so long to attract one rather disreputable developer to the street since the Howard-Paulina TIF was created in 1988, and there is no guarantee that Coe's building will be built, now that the market has slumped.
And it will be only one attractive building in a sea of blight.
What happened to the economic miracle that the Howard- Paulina TIF was supposed to generate? Take a look at the misconceived Gateway Mall, where large blocks of overpriced space still remain unrented, and where space planned for retail is occupied by a storage facility. Take a look at the choatic mess of Clark St.
I'm happy for what good development we are getting, but it is no credit to Moore that this is happening. Many people around here can remember when this neighborhood had much more top retail. I can personally remember that 10 years ago, we were in better condition than Edgewater by far, but that area has now pulled far ahead and has become a vibrant urban nabe with low crime rates and thriving retail and commercial.
> my point is that you can't say an area is blighted and run-down and vacant and lacking development when there are plans under review right now in the Building Dept. for a 28-unit condo building to go up on that same property.
Oh Nay BORE - since you're apparently involved with DevCorp, get real and tell the truth. How many plans were approved that NEVER HAPPENED? What went wrong? Was it all for show?
If Terzakis showed plan after plan and did nothing, there's no reason to trust Coe until I see 'lights, camera, action' without Joe babbling about all he's done.
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