Sunday, February 17, 2008

* Northern Illinois University Gunman Stayed in Rogers Park



Bernard Garbo said...> "Just noticed that there's a connection between our beat (2424) and the NIU shooting.

Apparently Stephen Kazmierczak, the Northern Illinois University shooter lived for a time at Thresholds-Mary Hill House mental health facility at 7356 North Winchester. According to published reports he "was placed at the psychiatric treatment center after attending Elk Grove, Ill., High School by his parents."

Unrelated to the shooting, neighbors were complaining about the facility at the last CAPS meeting. Most complaints focus on the residents and their behavior: loud, unruly, etc."

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm not shocked this lunatic lived here. This has always been a problematic building. Wish we could close it down.

Craig Gernhardt said...

Who's in charge:

PATRICIA BIGGS
THRESHOLDS-MARY HILL HOUSE
7356 N WINCHESTER
CHICAGO, IL. 60626
(773) 274-6013

The North Coast said...

Does Rogers Park have to be a dumping ground for ALL of the Chicago area's worst social problems.

I would like to see some trade-offs made. I'm happy to have services like homes for autistic children, services for the non-violent mentally ill, and shelters for domestic abuse victims.

In return for accepting these, we should be freed from the presence of halfway houses for the violent mentally ill, for violent ex-offenders, especially pedophiles, and other services that burden our neighborhood with an excessive number of people with problems that make them a large threat to our safety and peace.

MadeInRogersPark said...

Rogers Park has been a community that has thrived on community half way houses since the days of Paul Wigoda and Esther Saperstein. You better buy that house before someone turns it into a nursing home! The infkux of group homes, nursing homes, transitional living, and offenders re-entering society. Where to go? Rogers Park!
This incident at NIU is not because of Trilogy. What do you think you might do if your child unraveled and for unknown reasons joins the rank of the mentally ill?
Please let me know soon. Medication is not always the 'fix' one is hoping for!
LIVING IN A SHELTERED COMMUNITY IS NOT ALWAYS THE ANSWER!
They are human beings. They are in need of treatment but the solution is still in the unknown zone of the medical community. Just imagine if he was your son! Great academic!
Wires crossed. Let us provide support and hope for the chronically mentally ill.

MadeInRogersPark said...

oops! Thresholds not Trilogy!
My apologies!

The North Coast said...

Support for the chronically mentally ill could, in severe cases, take the form of institutionalization, but we don't want to allocate the money for that anymore. We'd rather spend it on corporate welfare, evermore highways, monument-building, and wars.

Friend of our family, my sis's best highschool friend, began to deteriorate at age 14. By age 19, she was extremely mentally ill and diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic.

It took her parents, neither one of whom was affluent, over twenty years, and numerous suicide attempts, to get her permanently committed to a maximum-security mental institution.

Now, in the case of this shooter, no one could have known how extremely ill he was. Many young people have "behavior problems" as adolescents and go on to lead productive, satisfying lives.

However, we have many people with really crippling mental illness who are going completely uncared for, and are living on the streets, or are in settings where they are not getting proper supervision.

And don't even get me started on how easy it is for a person with documented problems to get his hands on a weapon- legally. This guy had a firearm owner's permit and obtained his weapon legally.

My point was that I simply don't think that one ward should be the dumping ground for all the problems. Let's spread it around a little.

lafew said...

One of the challenges is that the suburbs won't tolerate their own, so they ship them to our neck of the woods.

Someone at state needs to mandate that halfway houses be meaningfully spread out in the suburbs, not just pidgeon-holed in Chicago's neighborhoods. Many of those in de-tox need the suburban air, not some IBM gangster selling crack in their faces. Hopefully, Mr. Blue Suede Shoes in Ravenswood can do a bit more dancing for his Chicago Communities.

Maybe Moore has forgotten how to network with the Guv! I think that transferring a few facilities to Deerfield, Glencoe, Highland Park, and Glenview may bring a little more diversity to those Cities, as well.

What about the facility in Evanston by the Playground just east of Ridge and Main, I think, based upon my recall. I think that we went there for about five minutes and took off after a few of the halfway house residents took in too much sky for their medication to tolerate.

Halfway houses should not be flophouses for the re-addicted. If the staff does not reasonably test, then what is the point!

lucky said...

Hi,
This is jee, I think that transferring a few facilities to Deerfield, Glencoe, Highland Park, and Glenview may bring a little more diversity to those Cities, as well.
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