Wednesday, November 11, 2009

Body recovered in water near Loyola campus


Chicago Police recovered a badly decomposed naked body off the Lake Michigan shore near Loyola University's Rogers Park campus Wednesday morning, officials said. The police Marine Unit recovered the body of a man in his 30s near the 6500 block of North Kenmore, police said. The body was found wedged between rocks. Source.

19 comments:

rogerspark60645 said...

I saw them pull the body bag out and put it in the wagon.

rogerspark60645 said...

One of our graduate students was teaching over in the new glass building on the lake (Information Commons). He told me that security pulled the window shades on the sides that faced the area and emptied the classrooms. He also saw the WGN news camera there.

Unknown said...

i watched from the 3rd floor of the IC, right over the body. was a bit creepy. had 3 guys in the water getting the body out, and all i could think is...you couldn't pay me enough!

don't understand them pulling shades and such, the students aren't 12 years old. think they can make their own decision as to seeing a dead body or not.

no worse than watching CSI really

Anonymous said...

That's sad! Wonder if this was a homicide?

Big Daddy said...

We find bodies in the lake all the time. Most of them are suicides. It's usually much worse in the spring when they pop up after being in the water all winter. It's amazing to see what being in the lake all winter can do to a body. They bloat up and become very pale. Sometimes they blowup on you and you get covered with blood,guts and putrid water. Working the wagon can be a very dirty job on days like that. I once handled a floater who had turned so white that we couldn't tell his race. Turned out he was a black guy that had jumped in the lake six months earlier.

Phred said...

"It's amazing to see what being in the lake all winter can do to a body. They bloat up and become very pale. Sometimes they blowup on you and you get covered with blood,guts and putrid water."

That said, Im quite surprised the dynamic investigative reporting duo of Gernhardt and Mannis weren't on the scene snapping many photos to post on this site. It sounds just as compelling as dog shit on the parkways.

Jiminy Junk said...

Unrelated: I think the pictures of the dog dookie have to come down. I get the point regarding Joe Moore, but it's just plain nasty son!

Razldazlrr said...

Big Daddy - I don't know how you do it! Just reading your post does it for me! Anyone ever find out what happened to the guy?
I have friends in Alaska - they can really drink up there! They have all kinds of bodies come to the surface with the spring thaw.

Unknown said...

other news

Unknown said...

oops other news in area found

http://www.loyolaphoenix.com/2.541/news/cvs-on-sheridan-considers-liquor-license-1.894882

also no comments
regarding fix up of facade of building across from reside on morse?

Big Daddy said...

I don't know Raz. I'm not working today. I'm RDO, short for regular day off.

Drew said...

Someone needs drug rehab if they're going to jump into a lake just to explode on some poor coroner.

Robin said...

Re: don't understand them pulling shades and such, the students aren't 12 years old. think they can make their own decision as to seeing a dead body or not.
........

I believe that pulling the shades, covering the body, putting up tarps to block the public's view at least started with the idea of respect for the dead.

The North Coast said...

Drew, you don't need to be a drug addict or alcoholic to be unhappy enough to commit suicide.

This society is only one step past the medieval era in its understanding of critical mental illness. I am dismayed by the lack of compassion for people who are suffering from deep, prolonged depression and other more severe mental illnesses, many of which have their roots in a person's genetic makeup and over which they have no more control than if they had a congenital physical disorder. Unfortunately, the treatments we have at hand at this time, such as psychotropic medication and electroshock- yes, it is still used, believe it or not- usually only leave the patient worse off.

Most of the time, the disorder goes clear back to childhood, and in the case of people who are drug addicts and alcoholics, you often find that the substance problem was preceded by a mental disorder.

It is ugly to say this, but oftentimes the suicide is inevitable and there is nothing anyone, least of all the hapless victim, could have done that would have improved the outcome. Have compassion for these people, and imagine just how horrible a state you have to be in for jumping in front of a train or drowning yourself in the lake, or blowing your brains out with a .357 (as my best friend did) is a preferable alternative.

Big Daddy said...

A friend of mine walked in on her mother just as she was about to commit suicide. Mom was saved. When she was better, everyone wanted to know the why's, how's and how could she's. Her response was that she was in so much emotional pain (nobody knew)that she was desperate to get rid of and suicide was the only answer. She wasn't even thinking of what the impact would be on her family,friends etc., she just needed to rid herself of that pain. That pain is now gone and Mom is 1000% better and leads a normal life.
Northcoast is right. We need to think of depression as a disease just as we think of cancer or heart disease as diseases. Depression is not imaginary or a sign of weakness.
FWIW

The North Coast said...

Daddy, I am so happy to hear of that woman's salvation and eventual healing. Would it be that it could always work this way.

Oftentimes, deeply disturbed and depressed people don't know how to reach out to the people around them, which was clearly the case with your friend's mother. They are often deeply convinced that they are burdens to their families and that their friends and relatives would be happy to see them pass and would be better off without them.

This was the case with my beloved friend, who I'll call "Meg" to preserve her and her family's privacy. We, her friends and family, had thought she was improving. She had stopped drinking, was losing weight, and was recovering her interest in life and her career. I recall that she sounded cheerful and busy when I spoke to her a week before her death. She had, you see, made the decision, and there was no going back for her, but none of us knew that.

I remember that when she called me, she'd apologize for taking up my time. She almost apologized for being alive and taking up space. She felt guilty, I remember, for anything she had that someone in the world didn't have, such as warm housing and regular food, to name a couple of examples. Excuse me for being alive! Excuse me for breathing the air and occupying valuable space! She was deeply convinced that everyone disliked her- "Your mother hates me," she told me on the phone, even though my mother had always liked her and approved of her. And her malaise had set in very early in life, for she had a severe alcohol problem by her teens, which did not prevent her from being one of the warmest, most intelligent, most compassionate and conscientious people I have ever known, in addition to being one of the most imaginative and humorous.

Could I have done anything different, anything that would have altered the tragic outcome? I do not know. I can think of things that could have been different for her in her adolescence, that might have made a difference, but it's useless to blame parents who were only doing their limited best as they saw it, and who were coping with their own miserable circumstances.

RP4Life said...

This is very sad. I live in the northern part of RP and about ten years ago they pulled an elderly person that had fallen in the lake. They had expired and became bloated. It looked like a scariest balloon you have ever seen. I felt for the wagon officers and my bro told me that if I ever became a policeman that wagon patrol was the worst. I know I have criticized the police in the past. They have a thankless job with no support, except their families. Thank you all.

Unknown said...

North Coast - thanks for sharing your very sad story. I so agree and don't understand why alcoholism is such a "disease" that people recognize but not depression? It's very sad that people get to that point.

Big Daddy said...

Because people think that other people who are suffering from depression are scammers. I used to feel the same way until I studied it and have seen the results when people are treated for it.

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