"Freaky Nu Nu" loved to flash gang signs.
Last entry on Freakys my space page, December 17, 2008. ~ "FREAKY~ AINT DEAD YET I CAN TLK LIFE OUT OF DEATH"
Police are closing in on the killers of Isiah AKA "Freaky Nu Nu" Stroud, 16, who was murdered near Alderman Joe Moore's office in the 49th ward. One of the alleged suspects last known address is the 7600 block of North Bosworth. His name is Montel Williams.
This was left in my comments section.
adpd said... I knew Isiah…. he had his issues (he didn’t come to my class very much) but he had a ton of potential and family that really cared. When the teachers called home, someone showed up. That's probably why, even after failing the classes he did, he was still in school (Well, family and girls..) He was completely capable of passing his classes, he just would ditch or get in trouble and go to in school suspension. I hope he straightened up and started doing better.
If he was misbehaving in school, it was always just to show off. I know he hung out with some thugs but, at the time, I couldn't imagine him being in a gang.
However, pics on his myspace and photobucket account... well, if he wasn’t doing bad things, he wanted folks to think he was capable of bad things. And some of the kids he's with I'm certain are in a gang. One hit me (he was arrested). One stole stuff from my room. And they aren’t throwing peace signs.
I feel horrible for his mom. Absolutely horrible. She really cared about him and was fighting an uphill battle against so many bad influences. He had lots of things stacked against him but lots of folks who wanted good things for him, too. Between the organ donation and the wake-up call (I hope) his death will be for some of his "on the edge" friends, he life and death will end up having a positive influence on others.
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so, was this kid a gang-banger himself, or did he just like to do stupid stuff?
he wasnt anything i knew him really well he was like my little brother he just wanted to dance so all this whoever that wrote this is talkin is bull there is almost no way to grow up in the streets of chicago and not be labeled a "gangster" or not to be around someone gang affiliated so
When I knew Isiah, I would never have guessed he was in a gang. I would have thought he was just trying to hang with some of the naughtier cool kids or impress girls who were impressed with naughtier cool kids. But the pics are bothersome. Some of those kids I'd avoid or I wouldn't walk directly home so they couldn't know where I live. The pic I find the worst is the one with Isiah and an older guy with an infant - where he is molding her fingers to make the same sign Isiah and the man is putting up.
Once again, I don't remember Isiah as a dangerous or risky kid - just one who wanted to be cool.. but I haven't interacted with him in a couple of years. And I don't know anything about gang signs. I know some hiphop and rap groups and dance groups have signs.. maybe (hopefully?) they aren't throwing gang signs.
I just keep thinking of his Mom. Isiah had more going for him than month others. I hope he was going to classes, doing well in schol, and his mom can be proud of the memories she has of him.
Are you sure about this? Is it really possible that the youth the newsmadia and his friends portrayed an an angel really was nothing more than a gangster/thug?
I really do feel awful for Isiah's family! I understand how the temptations of others can really weigh down on a kid! When I was growing up, I played guitar in a hardcore / punk band... for 12, or so years. We toured and did pretty good, but I got really tired of the crap that goes with it... drugs, etc. Our drummer was really into coke and heroin and always tried to get me to take some. I always figured that if you can live long enough to get sick and tired of being sick and tired, you can get through it.
Unfortunately, Isiah did not get that chance.
I hope that his death will wake people up and will get ALL of us more involved.
I would guess Isiah wasn't in a gang but he hung out with people who were. As Terron says, it can be hard not to be around someone gang affiliated. Atleast one of the kids in the photobucket pics hit me. I know, for certain, that kid wasn't part of a wholesome crowd. That said, it's a snapshot - one little moment in his life, not represenative of his entire life, I hope.
But it's what Isiah put out there for people to see. It's what he presented. Interpret them as you will.
My thoughts and prayers go out to Ms Stroud. I can't even begin to imagine what kind of pain she is in right now. I hope they find Isiah's killers and give them the justice they deserve.
I also hope Isiah's death is a wake up call for everyone.
How many choir boys count dirty money?
Just playin' around.
Come on Craig, can you take down all the gang stuff, bad enough we're still morning his death, everyone is trying get pass all this gang negativity, please can you..
uh dawood...so the fuck what if Craig wants to post a little reality about this little fucking 'angel' Freaky nu nu. So the fuck what if he's 16. I don't care. It's coming to the point that one needs a fucking PhD in sociology in order to properly filter what actually happened Friday night. The kid was a punk wannabe thug.
Nah...sorry dawood...no respect here. And as far as it happening to me? I'll remember that when I go hang in a hood 10 miles from where I live and flash gang signs.
everyone is trying get pass all this gang negativity, please can you..
YOu're blaming this website for "gang negitivity"??? Seriously??? I bet you pass by 15-20 guys like Nu nu every single day, kids who, if they aren't in a gang at least want to pretend they are. Do you say a word to them? Or do you criticize a blog who most of those kids probably have never seen? If you want to stop the "gang negitivity", there are plenty of ways to do it right out on the street. But to chastize a blog for doing so is silly.
Here's the reality, daword: A kid can "pretend" to be a gangbanger in the 'burbs. He can flash his made up signs, wear his "gangsta" clothes and at the end of the day, his buddies go to their rec rooms to play GTA: Vice city and sleep.
You can't pretend to be a gangbangers in the city becase someday someone will call you out on it and you either have to put up or shut up.
Sorry, but this has gotten me a little pissed off. Blaming a website for "gang negitivity" while you walk past a bunch of thug wanna-bes on the street and don't say a f*cking word?
how about stop trying to "get past it" and doing something about it, like actually speaking to the "kids" doing this? if you really care about the future "Nu Nu's" you'll speak to them about it, not a guy who runs a blog.
CRAG STOPIN' FUCKIN MAKIN IT SEEM LIKE ISAIAH GOT KILLED GANG BANGIN' CAUSE HE DIDN'T AND IT NOT BOSWORTH BOOTY BOYZ.....IT'S JUST B-BLOCK BEST BLOCK LIVIN' OVA CHICAGO KNODAT.....
===IT NOT BOSWORTH BOOTY BOYZ===
Sorry, Bam, my bad. I got carried away.
CRAG STOPIN' FUCKIN MAKIN IT SEEM LIKE ISAIAH GOT KILLED GANG BANGIN' CAUSE HE DIDN'T AND IT NOT BOSWORTH BOOTY BOYZ.....IT'S JUST B-BLOCK BEST BLOCK LIVIN' OVA CHICAGO KNODAT.....
I'm assuming the name "Bam" doesn't come from the sound all of the books he's reading make when they hit his desk in his advancement placement class...
Ah, a graduate of the CPS. We are doomed.
Come on, guys, give "Bam" a break. I spell like crap too, remember?
At least Bam's on here chatting - and not outside stabbing someone.
At least Bam's on here chatting - and not outside stabbing someone.
Maybe he has an iPod touch with wireless web access.
God, I'm so negative sometimes...
In my opinion, while those pictures of Isiah are very disturbing, or if he was in a gang, he still didn't deserve to die. Nobody does.
I'll also say that I agree with MOTS on nearly everything he has said so far.
Sorry folks 16 is old enough to know better Whether he had a father or not. There must be some formula for how the larger media narrative always boils down to this...(1) stupid little punk gets killed (2) happy innocent baby-pics splash all over my TV (2) exhortations from family and friends of how said stupid little punk really was a good kid (3) Dumb-ass local anchorman/woman trying their best to look 'sad' when they really don't give a shit (4) Retarded politician gets some publicity (5) calls for the "community" to come together (6) don't forget to throw in a candle-light vigil. Dear Lord...please just shoot ME in the head so I don't have to watch this carnival-show anymore!
The cynicism here is really a BIG downer. It's Christmas for God's sake, can't you all show some compassion?
He wasn't an angel or a devil. He was something in between-just like all of us.
In a million years, I wouldn't wish to be a young black man trying to grow up in this community. Would you?? I know plenty of people who won't live here with their young sons for this reason. It's dangerous!
Who among you acted perfectly as a teenager and didn't do some stupid things while growing up? Who among you should be grateful to still be alive for the dumb risks taken as a youth(driving drunk, out late and intoxicated, etc...)?? I know I am.
this is not directed towards thiskid but we need to dump the word gang banger or gangster, for shits sakes they're kids with guns and knives, thats all, no glamour, no gangster, just kids. that they still buy into the fake hollywood fake snoop dogg crap after all these years is tragic. that they don't have a future so they will die instead is so false and with some hope maybe with a real black man like Obama in office these kids can get a realty check and becme leaders not dead followers.
for shits sakes they're kids with guns and knives, thats all,
yeah, that's all. that's it. Just little rascals with guns and knives. Harmless, really.
It's this dismissive sentiment, this "kids will be kids, even if they have guns" attitude that is the problem now. A kid with a gun or a knife is no longer a "kid" but a potential murderer, as we've just found out. and if confronted with these weapons on the street, they won't be treated as kids.
Consider this a polite warning: all of those "kids" out there? If you don't put a stop to this now, society will and it won't be nice. People are getting fed up and all of this "they're just misunderstood" crap, with being jumped by a gang of teens for no reason other than they wanted to take their iPod or just for the hell of it. Trust me, it won't be tolerated much longer. All of those "kids"? They're somebody's sons and daughters. Somebody is responsible for their behavior; somebody has to be a parent. Guess who that is? The fact that the idea that a parent "can't control" their kids is becoming an accepted response is ridiculous. It's your kid! If you can't control them, then who do you think will? It's not the school's job, it's not the next door neighbor's job. And if it becomes the cop's job, you won't like the "discipline" technique that will be used. At some point you have to stop making excuses for their behavior Hell, Obama himself said as much.
maybe with a real black man like Obama in office these kids can get a realty check and becme leaders not dead followers.
It's not Obama's job to raise these kids! He's the presiden of the entire United States, not a babysitter! You know who's job it is
SOMEBODY in this kid's family saw those photos of him throwing up signs. Some uncle or cousin or even a parent saw those photos. The question is, what did they do? I'm not blaming his death on him. We're not even sure he responded to the car that drove by and shouted gang signs. But knowing the gang culture, he and his friends couldn't let that pass without responding. Perhaps he did, perhaps this wacked=out send of macho that kids have today, this aversion to being slighted even in the least, got the better of them and instead of just walking it off they responded and it escalated into this. All I know is that a kid is dead, a kid who, if he wasn't a gangster, loved to pretend he was...
gleafsentinel, while I agree with you that 16 is old enough to know better, I can't say I agree with you when you disagree with calls for the community to come together and the candle light vigils.
I think that communites do need to come together when something like that happens. Candle light vigils wouldn't hurt either. That's a way of prayer, and prayer is needed every time there's a killing for no good reason.
I ppl don't no this.he wusnt a bad kid and it wusnt his fight. U ppl talk big becuz u don't truly no how it feels to grow up in this neighborhood. He wus just witth the wrong ppl. Everyone makes bad decission. And for u ppl to sit up here and talk down on him and he gones make u look real ignorant and stupid becuz his mother culd be reading this and how wuld u feel if someone talke about ur child like he wus a speck of dust.!!!!!!
I knew this kid from the hood, and YES he was a member of the Gangster Disciples. This "kid" is one of the many that you all have griped and have been bitching about for two years now, but haven't come up with one solution for the problem.
"Freaky", at such a young age was a criminal, and chose to involve himself in the Gangster Disciple brotherhood. Ten years from now, "Freaky" would either be at cook couty for robbery, or murder.
Don't give everyone the usual bullshit that his family really cared, or were involved. They weren't, and never were. That's why he joined a gang.
All the social theories repeat themselves in this kid over, and over,decade after decade. Blame his fucking parents people. Hold them accountible for ALL his actions and demise; then you'll see change.
Until then, wait for B-Block to commit homicide in revenge.
I give it one month for another Rogers Park youth killed in retaliation for this.
realitydose, you are exhibiting an awful lot of common sense and knowlege here. It's refreshing.
realitydose said...
"Until then, wait for B-Block to commit homicide in revenge. I give it one month for another Rogers Park youth killed in retaliation for this."
Well, thanks for informing the rest of us about this, especially me. Now I have to use caution when I head back to school in early January, because for all we know, the sparks could fly there ...
U ppl talk big becuz u don't truly no how it feels to grow up in this neighborhood.
Don't know how it feels??? OK, no offense, but most of us here have probably lives "in this neighborhood" longer than you have and many have "grow up" here. Yes, we know.
And for u ppl to sit up here and talk down on him and he gones make u look real ignorant and stupid
WE look ignorant and stupid? This "kid" is on the internet for all the world to see throwing up gang signs, disrespecting his parents, his family, and WE are the ones who look ignorant and stupid.
See, this is the backwards logic that makes me occasionally say, "F*ck it, I'm moving out, let 'em have it."
So jasmine, fine, let's listen to you. What is your solution? What do you think needs to be done to stop this macho gangbanger bullsh*t? Help us understand, since according to you we don't.
Was Isiah's father part of his life?
How many gangsters are fatherless?
excellent insight realitydose...
Excellent insight realitydose. Thanks for the post. I'd like to add that another ridiculous side- affect of this kid-killing-kid cycle (lets call it the kkk cycle) is the "community" wallowing in this perverse martyrdom syndrome. You have the "adults" hiding behind or upholding the "loss of innocence" while you have the children glorifying their peer who has past on in a blaze-of-gangsta-glory with name and pix on the news and in the paper. I might have some respect for the little shit if he'd blown himself up at a checkpoint in GAZA or the West Bank but come on folks...this is fucking Rogers Park.
man on the street you totally read my comments incorrectly, I hardly am saying that "these are just kids." what I am saying is stop with glamorizing this crap, all of you saying he was a gangster, please. grown men are gangsters, little kids are not they are kids with guns, when you deglamorize this, then you place reality on it, kids with guns, not gangsters. gangsters are mob members who conduct illegal business, a bunch of kids with guns are what they are illegal weapon in the hands of an age that does not comprehend what a gangster is except holding a gun and flashing symbols.
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"I give it one month for another Rogers Park youth killed in retaliation for this"
You have a crisis on your hands, Mr Moore.
what I am saying is stop with glamorizing this crap, all of you saying he was a gangster, please. grown men are gangsters,
1) We aren't glamorizing "this crap" (an apt choice of words), the people who take photos of themselves throwing up signs and posting them on the internet are glamorizing it.
2) If you're in a gang, you're a gangster, period. Get it? Age has nothing to do with it. There's no Official Book of Gang Etiquette that tells the official age range of a gangster. If you're in a gang, you're a gangster. Just as if you're in a mob, your a mobster. If you're part of a particular "scene" (activity) you're sometimes called a "scenester". If you play a lot of tricks on people you're a trickers. If you post on a blog you become a poster (not the kind you hang on your wall).
Judging from the photos and My space page, if this Nu nu wasn't a gangster he sure wanted people to believe he was one.
BLAH BLAH BLAH YABBA YABBA YABBA BLAH BLAH BLAH YABBA YABBA YABBA BLAH BLAH BLAH EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES BLAH BLAH BLAH YABBA YABBA YABBA EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES NOT MY FAULT NOT MY FAULT NOT MY FAULT I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS FOR MY ACTIONS FOR MY ACTIONS IT AIN'T HIS FAULT IT AIN'T HIS FAULT IT AIN'T HIS FAULT NOT A GANGBANGER IGNORE THE SIGNS NOT A GANGBANGER IGNORE THE SIGNS NOT A GANGBANGER IGNORE THE SIGNS NOT A GANGBANGER IGNORE THE SIGNS BLAH BLAH BLAH EXCUSE EXCUSE EXCUSE
ad infinitum until the next innocent kid dies...
just to let u kno affliation or hangin with b-block did just because of a group name loc city got jumbed by them or however u wanna say it they got mad and wanted to fight back and kill him
See, this is the warped thinking that got this kid killed. If I am reading this correctly (and belive me it's difficult), this kid didn't do anything wrong; all he did was help jump and beat one gang. who knew they were going to get mad and want retaliation? I mean, just because they were jumped and got angry, that was no reason to want some sort of revenge. Who know they were going to get pissed at being jumped?
OK, this "thinking" has made it official: it's hopeless. There is no logic. There is no reasoning.
Here's a little more specific info:
One of the problems currently occurring is that many kids that consider themselves part of the "B-Block" or "C-Block" groups do not consider themselves "gangs"; they consider themselves more like a "clique". The problem is that they don't understand that anyone not around them on a daily basis sees them as a gang. Most of the fighting around Sullivan and other areas of Rogers Park is associated with these "cliques" (even though the "real" gangs, as they see them, do their fair share also).
They need to realize that perception is reality; if you're dressing, flashing, or just doing anything like what a typical Rogers Park resident would think of as "gang" behavior, then you're a gang member. GD, Latin King, Viking, Stone, B-Block, Loc, whatever - it doesn't matter. If you fit the profile, then you're guilty.
As someone who deals with kids in our neighborhood on a daily basis, I (and most others that I work with) tell them about this kind of stuff all of the time - many listen, but some are going to resist to the end. How are we going to fix this? Great question - the parents and kids are either going to solve this, or have the solution thrown upon them.
Man on the Street - one question - you said warn today's youth, telling them 'trust me, it won't be tolerated much longer'. Can you elaborate on this? You have many great comments, but I'd like to see what you mean.
first of all mr you dont know anything u only no bout things u mite hear falsely or see from your eyes if u or not out dere in the mix den dont speak on it because you are here speakin in vain on this young man which is like my brother he wasnt like the way you say he is and insanes arent really like a gang to tell tha truth they just make teir money and hang on bosworth and have fun isiah waznt pure az sugar i kno dat but he waznt bad like old milk either he just loved to have fun an footwork that pic didnt get him killed for everybody information so next time you post some bullshiid like that watch what you say and the pictures and you dont have any right or permission to put his pictures on here so go get a life and some other news and leave this situatin alone if you dont kno anything about it ......
aay had to comment again first of all reality dose and man of the streets and etc. how do u sound sittin up writeing this stuff you are putting up here talkin about his parents how dare you and u dont kno shiid about him or his family you people sound very dumb talking about his family and him when he is dead and mr.man of the streets u took the wording wrong ~just to let u kno affliation or hangin with b-block did just because of a group name loc city got jumbed by them or however u wanna say it they got mad and wanted to fight back and kill him~ nowhere in there says that he helped them fight the outher young men from locs it just say his friends did but im tired of all this bullshiid yall puting up here go get a life like i said before go learn about the people but until yall do R.i.P isah a.k.a freaky zeaky b.k.a frostite we at yo funeral diz sat holding it down gotta kno
So if you're a black kid in the city and you hang with your pals, and maybe sometimes you use or sell a little week or something you're a gangbanger. And if you get mowed down its the crime of the century and everyone is sad big time.
But if you're a white kid in suburbs and you hang with your friends and drink a little bit too much alcohol or smoke some pot, you're not a gang. And if you get in your car and drive drunk and mow down some innocent person DWI, it doesn't seem to be as horrific does it.
In the end innocent people are dead. The perception is different. What a shame. From someone who has experienced death of loved ones from alcohol fueled drivers please have a safe holiday season and think before you drink.
just'little old me,
If a someone gets drunk and mows another person down, there is something profoundly wrong with the character of that individual.
If a 13 year old murders a 16 year old for belonging to a different group there is something profoundly wrong with the culture.
A broken culture is a bigger, more far reaching problem.
I am sincerely sorry for your loss, I don't mean to diminish the pain and tragedy of what you and your loved ones have suffered because of the horrendous evil of drunk driving.
Peace be with you.
One of the problems currently occurring is that many kids that consider themselves part of the "B-Block" or "C-Block" groups do not consider themselves "gangs"; they consider themselves more like a "clique".
Semantics.
Man on the Street - one question - you said warn today's youth, telling them 'trust me, it won't be tolerated much longer'. Can you elaborate on this? You have many great comments, but I'd like to see what you mean.
Sure, no problem. If you're a regular reader of this blog and others about RP you should be aware that not everyone is enamoured with the current alderman and his style of community development. And it's a feeling that is growing. So there's a good chance there will be a new alderman next election, one who will take a much firmer approach to ending some of the problems currently plaguing RP, which involves drug sales, shootings, stabbings, fighting and random street robberies and assaults, etc. Which means the new alderman will demand and probably get more police involvement and more accountability from landlords with regard to the type of tenants who reside in their buildings. In fact, that type of push for landlord accountability is going on now; more neighborhoods are demanding that landlords crack down on loitering, drug sales in their buildings, etc., and evict those who engage in those activities or their parents if they can't control their "kids" (as is their legal right). And over time police will be asked to be more aggressive in dealing with these "kids". No one who is paying more than $200,000 for a condo wants to have to fight their way through a bunch of guys just hanging out in front of the train station or on the corner or have to hear gunshots just outside their window. There's a lot of new commercial development going on in Rogers Park right now, from the new condo/retail tower near Devon to Howard Street. The investors of those areas are not about to waste money on a project if they know that no one will shop there because of the problems that exist. If it comes down to their investment vs. the Nu Nus of the area, guess who will lose?
Chocolate,
I still don't know what the f*ck you're saying. For you, writing on a message board is like playing the oboe to catch fish. Which is to say, pointless. Seriously, let someone else edit your post before you put it up here. Because whatever you're trying to say is not coming through. I'm sure you have a point in there somewhere. Or not.
and insanes arent really like a gang to tell tha truth they just make teir money
There's that f*cked-up logic again. They aren't a gang, the just hang out, sell weed and occasionally jump other people which leads to them killing one of them in retaliation.
That's all it is.
mr.man of the streets u took the wording wrong
Well, I had no choice because you're writing SUCKS. Seriously, let someone, a friend with decent writing skills, edit our work for you and maybe no one will take the wording wrong.
I mean, "aay" for "I"? How is anyone supposed to decipher that?
I'm not the best with grammar and spelling, so I shouldn't be the one asking.... But I will anyhow.
Please, everyone. TRY NOT TO CAP EVERYTHING. Try 2 limit the txting of words.
We all want to know what you're saying - and it makes it tough under those above conditions.
Like I said, I wasn't ever really good - and still suck at writing. But I'm learning everyday.
Man on the Street - agree with you - there's no reason we should have to put up with the kids around the L, the stores, etc. It's time to keep them and the low lifes moving so more people will invest in this area.
Caps people - I don't even bother to read your post - please learn to write if you want us to pay attention.
It's time to keep them and the low lifes moving so more people will invest in this area.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying people can't just stand on the corner. Free country and all. But a highly congested area like the entrance to a el train station isn't the place. Neither is the middle of the f*cking sidewalk. We've got an armory on Broadway that has tons of programs that youth could get involved with. We've got parks, libraries, etc.
Unless, of course, the endeavor you're pursuing absolutely needs to be conducted on a street corner. and there are only a few endeavors i can think of that fit that description.
Anyone else see the problem here?
Using texting language and all caps to try to say something?
Not understanding the difference between "making their money" and being in a "real" gang?
What we have is a failure to understand and communicate effectively.
well we got howard area community center n its called da Zone da staff believ n us him n everybody else who kome maybe u right we shouldnt take up the sidewalk but we got better we started to move when you al come past remember its alot of people we hang with n der momz not gonna let us n there house that deep true we kan go ta the park but they mak us leav kuz its to many of us but aint the park fo kids especially when there alot of uS NOT KAUSING PROBLEMS. U HAV TA UNDERSTAND IF THEY KEEP KICKIN US OUT OF PLACES DUE TO STEREOTYPES WE WONT HAV ANYWERE TO GO
plz learn how not to b arrogant lik the "thugs" u seem to complain about n i reposted IT fo dat ass. did u no thugs r arrogant jus lik u?? its funny how yall got alot n commom REALLI! thugs r ass holes FREAKI WAS NOT thugs stereotype FROSTBITE DID NOT thugs r hypocrits NU NU WAS NOT....may i remind u u hav ALOT N COMMON WITH THESE THUGS U CLAIM TO TALK ABOUT
SO CHICAGO U WANT TO NO IF HE WAS A GANG BANGER FO DA LAST TIME HELLLLLL NOOOOOOOOO N WAT DO U MEAN BY STUPID STUFF KUZ FOOTWORKIN AINT STUPID BRO GET YO FACTS STRAIGHT FO U JUZ KOME ON HER BUMPIN YO GUMS ALL OF YALL!!!
well maib i was writitn 2 fast fo yal so let mi repeat it WHO DA FUCK IS ADPD WHY R U LETTIN DIS MAN NAME GO N VAIN Wat The Fuc IS WRNG WIT YALL LEAV MONTREL ALONE N ITS NOT MONTEL STOP LOOKIN FO LIL DAVE DIS MAN IS DEAD N YALL SITTIN UP HER TELLIN MA FUKAZ HE WAS N A GANG NO BITCH HE WASNT EVERY BODY HAD A GROUP DEY HANGED WIT N DEY ALL HAD NAMES FO DEY GROUP DIS SHIT IS CRAZY YALL KaNT EVEN LET DIS MAN NAME REST IN PEACE! BOOTY BOYZ??? IF I KATCH N FOUND OUT WHO DIS IS ITS HELL TA PAY KUZ DIS MAKZ NO SENSE HOW U NO HIZ MOM DOESNT LOOK UP HER FO FURTHER UPDATE ON HER SON N U JUS GONE SAI HE WAZ N A GANG I GUESS DATZ YALL EXCUSE FO HIS DEATH TO BAD IT WAZNT HUH!!! YALL DNT NO FREAKY YALL ONLI NO OF HIM! FROSTBITE NEVA HAD HIS HEAD DWN NEVA WAZ SAD N IF HE WAZ U KULD BARELY TELL BUT I GUESS U HAD TA B HIS FRIEND TA NO,ALWAYZ MAKIN PEOPLE LAUGH, ALWAYS BOUNCIN OFF DA WALLS HE KOULD DANCE FO YEARS IF U PLAI DA TRACK.... C LIK I SAID U DNT NO NU~NU WE NO HIM...MOMMA ITS GONE B OKAY IM SORRY BUT HE WOULD WaNT US TA B HAPPI ATLEAST TRI KUZ I LOVED HIM TO BUT I GUESS THESE PEOPLE KNT C DAT DER TO BUSY TRY 2 JUSTIFY HIS DEATH DA WAI DEY WNT IT TO B PORTAYED. DAT BOI WAS A GOOD MAN N YALL DNT UNDASTAND HE KOULDNT C HIS CHILD OR HIS X~MAS U TELL MI IF DATZ JUSTICE KUZ I FAIL TA C IT....I LOVE YOU BRO ALWAYZ N FOEVA B~BLOCK $M.O.E.T.$(TLD U EVERY BODY HAD THERE GROUP AND IM A GIRL IMAGINE THAT!!!)N I AINT N NO GANG SO LET ME SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT NOW!!!!!! yall AMAZIN u if u onli new BUT U DNT I WRITE N KAPTION KUZ I MAD DIS SHIT REALLI HURTS HE DID NOT DESERVE THIS AT ALL!!! IT WAZ NO NEED FO THIS TA HAPPEN U SAI IF HIS PARENTS WULD OF RAISED HE WULDNT B OUT ON DA STREET DO U UNDERSTND DIS LADY SON JUS DIED N U GO TALK ABOUT HER PARENTING WAT DOES IT MATTA IF HE WAS N A GANG BUT ANYWAYZ THAT LADY TOOK KARE OF HER SON ALL THE TIME IT HIS CHOICE TA GO OUT SIDE ITS HIS CHOICE TO HANG WIT WHO HE WANTS TO SHI KANT HOLD HIS HAND N THE REAL WORLD
alot of people dnt lik each other n dnt killed there rival dey didnt kill him kus he was frm a different GROUP dey killed him kuz they got into a altercation
HE SAYS THIS CAUSE GENTRIFICATION IS A BITCH N LOW INCOME PEOPLE IS ITS HUSBAND DEY TRYIN GET RID OF ALL THE PEOPLE THEY KALLED THUGS OR GANGSTERS WATEVER FLOATS YO BOAT THIS ISNT KOOL JUST GIVE UP ON YOUTH HUH!!! SORRY I WOULD LIK TO INVEST IN THEM KUZ REGAURDLESS OF WHETHER U LIK IT OR NOT THEY R OUR FUTURE DNT LIK IT?CHANGE IT BUT DNT U DARE COMPLAIN IF YOUR NOT WILLING TO HELP. MOVIN THEM AWAY IS NOT GONNA SOLVE ANYTHING BUT HELPING THEM BETTER THERE LIFE WILL
JUST GIVE UP ON YOUTH HUH!!!
Nobody's giving up on youths, idiot! There are PLENTY of programs out there for them to take part of and direct them away from this life. Hell, they just built a brand new expensive community center on Howard! There are programs in nearly every library, after school programs, programs at places like the Broadway armory, mentor programs like Black Star project, etc. etc. etc. People in Rogers Park and all over the city are creating new programs everyday to give these kids a chance to improve their minds and their lives. Yet you come here and claim that people have want pity and claim that people are giving up on the youth. BULLSHIT! (See? all caps just so you can understand). There are literally HUNDREDS of programs out there to help kids like this Nu nu. So you can shove that crap about no one cares. They have given these kids EVERY opportuinty to turn their lives around and contribute, rather than take, from society and these kids turned their back on them and choose the streets. Well, they made their decision. And soon society will make its decision.
Stop playing the f*cking victim and claiming that no one is doing anything to help. There's so much help out there it's ridiculous. All they have to do stop hanging out on the corner and walk to one. Here, I'll even help you out and list a few.
Program 1
Program 2
Program 3
Program 4
Program 5
So you can either sit at your computer and keep bitching about how no one cars about these "good kids" or you can gather a few of them up and take them to one of the HUNDREDS of programs out there to help them make something meaningful of their lives.
See, crap like this is why people are getting fed up. They have bent over backwards for youths like this and they STILL say it's not enough.
SORRY I WOULD LIK TO INVEST IN THEM KUZ REGAURDLESS OF WHETHER U LIK IT OR NOT THEY R OUR FUTURE DNT LIK IT?CHANGE IT
See my earlier post. People have already "invested" in them. Millions and millions of dollars in programs that you apparently don't even see. Stop talking in cliches and direct the future Nu Nus to one of the programs I listed above. Or do you just prefer talking trite platitudes to action?
WAT DOES IT MATTA IF HE WAS N A GANG
What does it matter????
And the line of misguided logic continues. Like I said, this makes it pretty clear that there is no hope.
and the next award for asshole of the decade goes to.......GREG Z AGAIN NOT SUPRISING...all dat blah blah shit sounds good but every body got there signs i no u aware of ANNUIT COEPTIS"A NEW WORLD ORDER" CHECK THE BACK OF YOUR DOLLAR BILL SOMETIMES IF U GOT 1 THAT EYE ON THERE AINT THER FOR NO REASON NOW WHEN JAY-Z THROW HIS HAND UP TA MAKE THAT TRIANGLE HE AINT JUST DOIN IT FOR HIS HEALTH THAT CBS LOGO YUP THAT CORPORATION N IT TO...lik i said EVERYBODY got a logo to advertise there self BUT I GUESS IF THE SHOE HALFWAY FITS HE DNT NEED A BIGGER SIZE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwhznS6JxYY
IT HIS CHOICE TA GO OUT SIDE ITS HIS CHOICE TO HANG WIT WHO HE WANTS TO
And that's where you're wrong again. He's 16 and living in his mother's house. It's not and shouldn't be "his choice" to hang with people who's actions could get him killed (assuming he was innocent). It's a parents job to monitor a 16 year old son's actions, his friends, what he's doing. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's the way it is. If he's living on his own, fine
u all realli piss me off with ur negativity may i remind u weed use to be legal ANOTHER THING EVERYBODY SMOKES WEED NOT JUST BLACK PEOPLE BUT EVERYBODY WHITE BLACK PAKISTAN EL SALVORDORIANS MEXICAN PUERTO RICANS EVERYBODY!!!! U WOULD B AMAZED HOW MANY DIFFERENTS RACES COME UP TO ME ASKIN DO I HAV WEED A MEXICAN THE OTHER DAY PULLED UP N THE CAR ASKIN WAIT HE WAS ARAB...U C IT AINT JUST US ITS EVERYBODY... N WAT U ALSO SAYIN IS U NEVA HAD A GROUP U HUNG OUT WITH DAT HAD A NAME OR DID SOME "RADICAL" ASS HAND SHAKE SORRY OUR GROUPS ARE BIGGER THEN YOURS BUT I GUESS DAT WOULDNT BE A GROUP IT WOULD B A CLAN...LMAO
I AGREE WIT CHOCOLATE ON DECK THOSE WERE PERSONAL PICZ U HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUST TAKE THEM LIK THAT AND PORTRAY THEM THE WAY U WANT THEM TO B SEEN
Clan. Gang. Club. Posse. Cult. Organization. Team. They all mean basically the same thing.
That being said, which would you like to be a part of? Which most suit who you are?
My pick is a "team."
I love how block talks about dollar bills and Jay-z and smoking weed and everything else under the sun except how many of the young men in our community he's going to take with him to one of the at-risk youth programs I mentioned... you know, the programs that don't exist because no one wants to invest in youth...
MAN ON STREET WHILE U TALKIN HE WASNT NO GROWN ASS MAN APPARENTLY IF HES JUS TURNED SIXTEEN U AIR HEAD
BBlock - you've got some decent points hidden in there - but YOU'VE got to understand:
1) Most people reading this blog will not take you seriously or even read what you write when you TALK LIKE DIS. Communication works both ways - if you want people to listen and take you seriously, then you have to talk (or write) to them in a way that they'll get. They'll talk down to you if you write in all caps; that's just the way it is. They'll listen to you if you write in a way that's considered "normal".
2) Calling people names kinda turns them off (again, I'm aware that people call you names - sucks, doesn't it?) So, calling me an asshole isn't going to make me want to read your comments. And don't say that you don't care if anyone reads your comments - you wouldn't be posting if you didn't care.
IDIOT I GOT YOUR IDIOT THEY JUST CLOSED THE ZONE IT WAS RIGHT IN OUR NEIGHBOR HOOD WANA NO WI KUZ IT WAS A HELL HOLE NOTHIN WAS UP TO DATE EVERY THING WASLEAKIN WE HAD A PLACE TO GO WE ENJOYED BEIN THERE BUT NOW ITS KLOSED BUT DNT WORRY WEN IT OPENS WE WILL B BACK MAY B U HAVENT GIVEN UP OR DATZ WAT U KLAIM BUT IF U DIDNT HELP OPEN UP ANY OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS I DNT WANA HEAR JACK SQUAT SHIT FRM U
AT TIMES I WANA KRY BUT U ALL REALLI MAK ME LAUGH I NO WAT PROGRAM ISIAH WAS N KUZ HE WAS IN THE SAME PROGRAM AS MI N I SAID I WOULD LIK TO INVEST IN THE YOUTH (THAT MEANS ME) N TRUST I KNOW HOW MANY PROGRAMS ARE OUT THERE BUT HOW DO U KNOW WETHER IT FITS TO THE LIKING OF THE KIDS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHAT U LIK MAY NOT B WAT THEY LIK REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT
IT DNT MATTA HE WAS STILL A CHILD REGUARDLESS OF WHO HE WAS AND WAT HE DID
NO MAFUKA IF UR MOTHER TELLS U NOT TO DO SO U GON DO IT N WAT U SAY SOUNDS GOOD BUT IT AINT. THAT BOY IS GROWIN UP N HE HAS TO TAK RESPONSIBILITIES FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS BUT HE MOST REMAIN HUMBLE TO HIS MOTHER TRUE HE WAS YOUNG BUT WAT BOYS STAYS N THE HOUSE AT SIXTEEN....NOT NONE!
I LIK DAT N U! a team sur why not. u wit da tactical team dey just as worse as us
u onli dnt wnt to invest kuz u given up but i refuse i help youth every day hav u heard of SISTER CHAPTER DNT TIP U WILL C US WALKIN AROUND WITH OUR BLACK HOODIES N PINK WRITIN
BUT WATZ NORMAL? MUST WE CONTAIN OURSELVES WITHIN THE BOX if u dnt listen its onli cause ur narrow minded n choose not to SO WAT U SAYIN IS THEY WOULD RATHER LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE PEICED TOGETHER FALSE ACUSATION AGAINST FREAKY THEN TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO REALLI NO HIM
THE TRUTH HURTS WHO R U... U ASKIN WHO I B... U RATHER FOR THIS MAN NAMED TA B N VAIN MAFUKAZ TELLIN MI JUS LEAV IT B BUT WI DIS AINT TRUE ABOUT HIM U NO HOW MANI TIMES DIS CHILD WAS STABBED. I FIGURE U DO. DEN U NO DAT WAS UN CALL FOR NOW U TEL MI WAS THAT JUSTICE
NO MAFUKA IF UR MOTHER TELLS U NOT TO DO SO U GON DO IT
And that's called having little respect for your mother. Thanks for painting a little bit more of the picture of Nu Nu and his family.
Just so you know, in the world outside of the one you live in, if your mother tells you not to, most likely you won't.
IDIOT THEY JUST CLOSED THE ZONE IT WAS RIGHT IN OUR NEIGHBOR HOOD
One program down, about a hundred left...
BITCH I NO N DEY DIDNT JUS KLOSE IT
EY CHUCH DNT SWITCH MA WORDS HAV U FORGOTTEN U WER A TEENAGER ONCE KIDS ARENT GONNA LISTEN ALL DA TIME THERE TEENAGE YEARS R THE TIME WEN THEY R GONNA REBEL
Man On The Street
YOU SO FUCKIN NOSEY WHY WANT THE REASON YOU NEED A FUCKIN LIFE I BET YOU THINK ALL KIDS ARE GANG BANGER MUFUCKER WOULDN'T HAVE TO GANG BANG IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD GIVE BLACK KIDS A JOB THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO BAD THING'S THINK ABOUT IT
i second that motion you all are to busy tryin to not give us jobs we have no choice but to make our own we would like to have legal jobs only if you let us atleast we want jobs some dont some rather mooch off others BUT NOT US!
excuse me mr.man of the streets you over here talking about how i write and you dont even know me i dont have to write all proper for your uptight white azz okay if i wanna say ya kno or wad up den i will do you understand me know or do i need to say good evening sir this is what happing no ......
B-Block i.c.g.
If your so insane, and an Insane, Cuthroat, Gangsta'. Well, who got cut-throated?? You and your imbasil Gagster Disciples.
I have two aruguments here. One is for the citizen's of Rogers Park. You all have come to this site to gripe or express (rightfully so) your anger on the issues of our community. Isiah was one of those people who is part of the reason Morse Ave. is a shit hole now. Isiah participated in the fights that this site complains about OVER and OVER.
Now he's dead (He was part of the Insane CUT THROAT GANGSTERS) and you have to reflect on ways he could have led his life?????
Are we insane, softened? Yup. we are.
I feel bad for the kid, no one should die at such an age. But he and his gang beat, rob, steal,and disrupt innocent folks like you and me.
Fuck him. Yes it sucks a young tender child is dead, but HE chose this. His gang helped him in this, his parents allowed this.
To the young "Cut-Throat-Gangsta's"
and to the silly citizen's making excuses and deflecting the blame. Fuck you, I'm tired of Morse Ave. trying to rebound for twenty years.
Isiah is dead. Isiah was a Gangster Disciple. Isiah and his gang need to leave. I don't want you here anymore.
a craig meber lol me wait let me spell right before the up beat pale face's say something any way lil freaky was my lil dude man i would see him once in a while but u new yeh dat's freaky lil ass tweekin agin but all dis shit on here saying he had what was coming to him is some bullshit i do blame thies dumb ass littile blocks calln them self's gangs yall dont know the meaning of that word BUT DUDE ON HERE gleafsentinel IF I FIND OUT WHO U ARE U GO BE TELLN MY LIL MAN FREAKY SORRY IN PERSON FIRST CLASS FROM TIEDIE ASK CRAIG BOUT ME HOMIE AN TO THIS LITTILE BLOCK GANG BANGIN BULLSHIT STOP IT I DID IF I DID I KNOW YALL CAN FOR THOSE OF U WHO KNOW ME. A LIL NIGGA
MEBER ME,CHRIS,HIS BRO,D-MACK AN U WAS IN EVANSTON AN DEM NIGGAS LET LOSE AT US LOL BUT U KEEP BURNING DEM ANGELS IN FOOTWORKIN UP THEIR LIL BRO I KNOW THEY GOT A GOOD ONE UP THEIR TELL MY PEOPLES I SAID WAD UP AN I BE UP THEIR SOON.FUCK RIP LONG LIVE FREAKY.......
realitydose: Thank you, well said. There's been a lot of PC comments from our neighbors regarding how they are "mourning" the death of this kid. Call me Mr. Insensitive, but I haven't spent one second in mourning over this nonsense. I'm not celebrating the event, but come on! Are you seriously moping around grieving over some gangbanger (or gangbangerwannabe, if you will) that you never met?
For all of Freaky's pals on here, if you want others to respect you and your opinion, you have to respect yourself first. I don't know if you really can't write or if this is just "hard-ass on the street" language that you are attempting to use.
We're not "tightasses" nor are we demanding mistake-free grammar. However, no one will ever take you seriously if you talk/speak like that. No one on a blog, no employer, etc. And I'm serious about this--I'm not trying to "dis" you--if you want to have a better fate than Freaky, I'd suggest learning how to communicate above a first grade level. Otherwise, your street talk will get you no further in life than the street.
I am pretty sure they have labeled this slang ebonics.
i dont have to write all proper for your uptight white azz okay
I'm not white, dumb motherf*cker. I grew up in this city, lived in Robert Taylor before it got so f*cked up they had to tear it down lived on the "low end" of 73rd street near Halsted, live in places that are much worse than Rogers Park. I knew people who were in a gang. I had one cousin in prison for shooting a guy in a Cabrini Green hallway and another who ran off to Alabama to escape a murder charge. I used to work for CHA and spent a lot of time working with the residens of Cabrini Green, Altgeld, etc., most of whom just wanted to live their lives and wanted this stupid gang sh*t to stop. So you can shove your stupid excuse-making "whitey don't understand" crap up your ass.
I know you and I know people like you. I LIVED with people like you, people who tried to act like this stupid gangbanging and flashing signs shit is the norm. IT IS NOT.
Kids like Nu nu had a golden opportunity when they moved here. They came into a community that, for better or worse, wanted to embrace diversity and welcome everyone. They moved to a place that was probably better than where they moved from. The people here built a new community center just for those kids, started new programs to get them included and these kids slapped them in face for being so open and friendly by shooting, robbing and "gooning". And now you're showing them what can happen when you try to embrace everyone and many of the older residens here are pulling back from that idea.
So keep making those bullsh*t excuses about how flashing gang signs and selling a little weed is just harmelss kid stuff. This world will eventually leave your ass behing and you'll be just another 50, 60 year old bum standing on the street corner shaking a cup and wondering where you f*cked up in life.
i second that motion you all are to busy tryin to not give us jobs we have no choice but to make our own we would like to have legal jobs only if you let us
BULLSHIT! There are jobs out there if you want to work for it. Please, tell me what you want to do for a living and I will find a job training program that will give you the skills and find you a job. Fuck this "if you let us" bullshit. Stop looking for instant gratification, for a job that will pay six figures to someone who walks in off the street. If you want an office job, to work with computer, to be a skilled craftman, etc. there are FREE programs around the city that will train you to do it. But lazy f*cks like you want to get PAID right away and not wait to make $2,000 a week. Newsflash: IT'S DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT! Look in the newspaper, glance at the help wanted section, check out the listings on Monster.com or careerbuilder.com. Those are JOBS they list and all you gotta do is look at one you want and get trained for it. Hell, go to public access televsion here in Chicago and on the message board that flashes on the screen there are tons of listing for places that will train you to be skilled in Microsoft office programs, skills that, surprisingly, not a lot of people have (I can't tell you how many times people want me to create a Powerpoint presentation for them that is so simple that anyone can do it. Yet they ask me and I get paid for it).
Stop making f*cking excuses, get off your ass, read the papers, see what jobs are in demand and go out and get the skills to GET THAT JOB. Think beyond McDonalds, start thinking of a career. It ain't gonna happen overnight, though. Get that through your head. No one is going to hand you a job. You have to WORK for it. Stop looking for the instant grafitication that comes from making a few dollars selling weed. Be willing to WORK for something, a job where you don't have to look over your shoulder.
some rather mooch off others BUT NOT US!
Bullshit, again. Gangbangers DO mooch off others, if not directly then indirectly. They suck the life out of neighborhood (name one upscale neighborhood with guys hanging on the corner selling weed). They prey on the poor and weak.
You honestly think you're doing the world a favor?? LOL. More delusional thinking. Have fun being a broke 60 year old gangster. If you live that long.
YOU SO FUCKIN NOSEY
I'M nosey??? YOU came HERE to see what people were writing about your buddy Nu nu, OK? YOU chose to join this discussion, no one asked you to.
You don't have a f*cking clue, do you?
Once again the warped logic shows me there is virtually no hope.
man on the street: I could not agree more more with you! Well said!
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