From the writers tone, I'm taking this plea to be serious.
Songia Brown said... Hello! I would like to thank you the commenters on this page for not writing more hurtful opinions or comments on my son's behalf. Thank You!Blognotes: I'm believing we have a parent who is deeply distraught. She, along with a few commenters, are raising serious doubts as to her son being the actual shooter.
This is his mother again and as I said before to the shooter if you are out there and you're reading this please turn yourself in don't let my son take the fall for a crime he didn't commit because I need my son here with me he is my life so why are you doing this to me, you have a mother who I'm sure you love and wouldn't want to see this happen to her.
He has a three year old sister who is very close to him and everyday she ask me where is her brother and starts crying when she don't see him, if you let him go to jail he will miss precious moments in her life that can't be replaced.
I know you have a heart! This has taken a toll on his whole family lives because we have to not only endure his pain but ours as well and my mother is in her 60's so she can't have too much stress on her at this time.
Please turn yourself in immediately. I hold no grudge because I was taught to forgive, so I beg you to please turn yourself in, PLEASE!
Then again, maybe mom is in denial? A mom wanting to believe her son is innocent. It wouldn't be the first time a parent didn't want to believe her son shot a 9 year old child in the leg for no reason.
Comments on this topic will be highly regulated. Any tips (anonymous or not) will be forwarded to Area 3 Chief Rottner. I will keep all anonymous tips just that. Anonymous.
74 comments:
Is James Brown a latin king or not?
There's been no official word on which gang James Brown may or may not have been affiliated with.
How does she KNOW that her son is not the shooter? Does she have actual proof he was not there at the time or is it just that she knows that her son is a "good boy"? As much as I would like to believe here I've see too many mothers insist that their sons or daughters would "never do something like that" and find out later that they did. If she is watching these boards, tell us. What makes you so sure your son didn't do this? Was he home at the time? Somewhere else that you can verify? Because if you are asking us to believe you just because you're his mother and you "know him", to be brutally honest, I personally am going to need more proof than that. I don't want to sound cruel, but I used to work at a newspaper, interviewed quite a few mothers who said the same thing and found out their sons did do what they were accused of. So make us believe you. And I hope you're right.
Really James does not need to convince us of his innocence, however there will be a judge and jury.
The Kenedy defense.
How can my brother have done this if he was in the house with me, my mother, my lil sister, my boyfriend, my other brother and my moms friend who is an hispanic guy who also told the police he saw these hispanic guys running down my block at the time of the shooting and my brother was in the house so you tell me can he be at two places at one time,no!
Really James does not need to convince us of his innocence,
I'm not asking the suspect to convince me. I'm not even asking his family to convince me. I guess I really just wanted them to know why people would post some negative things about them here or doubt what they say. I mean, everyone they listed as an "eyewitness" to his whereabouts are family members of close friends, people who some might think might actually lie to keep him out of trouble (and I am NOT calling them liars, just saying that some people might doubt them based on their relationship with him). If they included the store owner across the street or two people in a bank around the corner who saw him there or someone else who had nothing personal to do with him, it might make things more believable for me. I know they can't help where he (allegedly) was at the time of the shooting, but it just sounds like some of the same stuff. Give me some other proof. Don't expect me to just take your word for it. Again, I hope I'm wrong.
Man On The Street, you know that I agree with your comments just about everytime, but this time, I'll have to disagree. I disagree because she really doesn't have to prove anything to you guys (I don't live in RP so she definately doesn't need to prove anything to me). They only real person she needs to prove this to is the police. They're the ones who really need to know.
She SHOULD (if she doesn't) know her son, since he's lived with her all of his life (I'm assuming). I'm not saying I totally believe her, but he's been with her all of his life, she should have a basic idea of her son. If she doesn't, shame on her.
Ultimately, if he was the shooter, I'm glad he was caught. If he wasn't, then a search for the real shooter needs to be started. But, unfortunely, that probably won't happen. Most people don't want to say what happens in things like this.
I've arrested hundreds of kids and have their mothers claim that I arrested the wrong guy because the child was right at home with their moms when the crime occured. Only problem is that all the evidence including scientific AND co-defendants confessions proved otherwise. I remember one time I arrested a kid for murder. Of course it was on the news. And guess what was written on the childs bedroom wall which was visible behind mom as she was being interviewed by the newsmedia crying about how the police arrested the wrong boy because her son would never,ever do somehing like this, and besides, he wasn't even in a gang. The pitchfork.
Timmy- Do you have any idea how many parents who think they know their kids or where they are at all times actually do know? Not very many.
Sorry mom, save your pleas for the jury. I'm not buying today.
BTW, I remember the mother of another RP youth saying the same thing about her kid who was arrested for a murder awhile back. Then I saw his sheet. Then I knew.
Timmy, you're right, she doesn't have to prove anything to me. BUT, she and her daughter came HERE to plead their case to the public that their son was innocent. So they opened themselves up to be scrutinized by me and everyone else here on this board. They came here to ask us to belive them. So I say, fine, if you want me to believe you, give me proof, more proof than what they've given me so far. If they had kept this to themselves I'd agree with you. Yes, the police and the courts are the ultimate judge, but by coming here and asking us to believe them they've ultimately asked us to judge their son/brother too.
And yes, she should know her son/brother, but I guess I'm just a skeptical type. Like I said, I've heard lots of people defend their family members as "good kids", etc., even after it's been proven that they committed whatever crime they've been accused of.
So, you're right, they don't have to prove anything to me or anyone else here. But by telling us what he was supposedly doing, what kind of person he supposedly is, they've already started trying to prove it to us without anyone asking for it. So if they're going to do that, unsolicited, I want more proof.
Latin King, the public defender in this case wants to talk to you. I've got his #. Email me.
Anyone else who saw something, this public defender would like to speak to you too. Like I said, I have his number. Contact me.
You're right, Big Daddy. I'm aware of that. Thankfully, for kids like me, my mom doesn't have to worry about that (well, not at least anymore) because I don't go out at night (I try not to due to all of the gangbangers outside and violence), but if I'm out at night, I'm with a responsible adult that can keep me out of trouble and keep me safe.
Reading your latest comment, MOTS, I have to say, you're right. They came on here with all of that, so yeah, we should see more proof then.
As for the defender wanting to talk to Latin King, I have to say ... uh oh. I smell a full investigation coming (lol).
Hello!This is James mother again, and I hear you all.I really do undestand you guys point of view in this and I empathize on what you're saying because its very logical.I mean yes moms and otthers do lie to save their loved ones all the time,but this is not that case my son really is innocent.I invite anyone to view the evidence I have given to my lawyer and the police to see for themselves and analize it and then you will have your facts, problem is my son has had many fights in the past so he has put a bad taste in the cops mouth whenever they see or hear his name so as we all know usually when that is the case we sometimes don't care to know the story we find it easy to say he/she is guilty and that is not fair.As I said I have a 3 year old here and I wouldn't jeopardize lying to save my grown son if he do the crime he needs to do the time no questions!
It's me mom again, also my landlord who is a lawyer and was at the scene of the incident saw the boy get shot and remained on the scene until police got there to tell them that all the witnesses out at the time said it was a hispanic guy who shot the 9yr old and there were no black men present at the time my son is definitely black american so... And I am not getting smart mouthed with anyone because that is the furthest thing from me now my number one concern is my son, I wish you all really knew the type of person I am but unfortuneately you all don't because if you did you would believe me without a doubt but I am a stranger so I understand!
Mom again! If you are wondering why I can't stop talking is because when you tell the truth and no one believes you you have to keep trying at least I will because I will not give up on my sons innocence for anything.If you want proof not that I owe that to anyone but the courts and proper authorities I have it and you are more than welcome to see it but don't waste my time if you're not trying to help my son because if you can help please do immediately.To the man responsible for this Blog if you'd like to meet me or talk to see my evidence please I would love it anything right now to help my sons case I'll take it and then you can share these discoveries with these commenters asap for me then I strongly believe their minds will change.Here is my number(773)313-7123 or (773)856-3021 call me at first I didn't want to give my number but the I realized this can possibly help my son so I will take whatever chance I have to from this point.
Mom again! To the person who wants to know if my son is a king,no and he belongs to no gang he hangs with friends who may be an affiliate and I know this doesn't look good because guilty by association,I know but I am not going to lie about anything because I don't see the point in that.He has no gang signs on his body nor has anyone proved him to be an affiliate of any gang but yes he will fight if he has to I mean he is a man and men have to defend themselves.Another important thing my son has never been in jail or prison until now and I can surely prove that.Trust me when all the facts come out the truth will be seen and you all that had doubts will see and you will probably say sorry and I will say see I told you so but the messed up thing is that until that time comes my son sits in the county jail scared as hell!
Mom! Another thing there are cameras at the scene where this happened and I asked the police to view them ,I asked for a lie detector test on me and my son,I gave written statements along with people who aren't my family to prove my son was here at the time of the incident ,but no since the police has continued to harras my sons they refuse to hear anything I have to say because they don't care for my sons and would rather see them locked up at least that's what the police tells my younger son Maxwell when they see him outside.So my son is going to have a hard time beating this case, and let me mention this, you know the world we live in so if one person don't like you they can convince others not to like you as well you know.And I share my mouth piece with everyone because I believe someone saw what happened and know the truth besides us and will come forward asap please time is precious and my son needs your effort asap please!
Yes, I confirmed, this is mom.
Hello, this is the sister this time around... I would just like to say that this issue is really being blown out of proportion. U all want proof than proof is what u all will get. On the corner there are blue police camaras, that I asked the police to check but they refused. When my mother and I gave our statements to the detectives, they didn't even use them. Also, two of the people who gave statements weren't family, so wat do they have to lie about? And since the victim mother was at the crime scene she should be able to point out the shooter, and her son as well. I can give them several pictures of my brother and they can look over them to find out if he is the ACTUAL shooter! I'm willing to do wateva it takes to free my brother. & to the writer whom said there are alot of mothers who don't want to believe their child did wrong doing, well to you I say there are alot of people who are in jail serving serious time for crimes they did NOT commit and yrs later, we find out that their actual innocent... and I don't want my brother to be added to that list!
The picture that you see is my youngest daughter who desperately wants to see her big brother I mean they are so close and she is too young to understand what is going on so when she aske for him I say he wil be home soon baby, but that doesn't stop her from continuing to ask where is her big brother.So I say to you anyone who knows something need to come forward asap and to the person responsible for this please come forward immediately don't ruin a little girl's life and take her big brother away from her she deserves to have a family she is only three and these are some of the most and vital time of her life.I don't really know what else to say at this point I will hope and pray to GOD you do the right thing now because you are going to feel really bad if something happens to my son like him killing himself from this and you can't give me back my son. I am begging anyone on this page or anywhere if you know something speak now because there is a innocent man my son who will face hard time for something he really didn't do.PLEASE TURN YOURSELF IN or ANYONE WHO KNOWS SOMETHING AND CAN HELP PLEASE IN THE NAME OF GOD SAY SOMETHING AND COME FORWARD.I am taking a big risk talking but I have to struggle and keep hope alive for my son, I need him and he needs me.To anyone who knows something empathize with me put yourself in my shoes someone frames your child he or she goes to jail where they never been witness another inmate rape another and watches him bleed like crazy.How would you feel knowing the truth is out there and no one said nothing, think about this that person will probably do it again and the next time might be one of your loved ones!
This is me mom, one more thing I'd like to mention to you all.I am not asking for your sympathy but rather your empathy to my situation because of this.I am a single parent of four children who like many of you are having financial problems right now.So imagine this, since my son has been in jail I have spent $200 hundred dollars on western union so my son can call coleect in order for us to talk and for him to be able to communicate to me his condition while he is in jail.Also I had to give my lawyer $500 hundred dollars for me to retain him and for him to continue to represent my son I need to give him $3500 more dollars and I don't have that right now but without a lawyer his defense will suffer you all know the system better than me.I was thinking about asking everyone I know or don't know to give me one dollar from evryone than maybe I will be successful enough to continue to pay my sons lawyer.I have never had to beg for money but now I do so if you want to help me please do so and if you need proof on these expenses I said I have already paid I have my western union receipts along with the money order receipt I paid to the lawyer already to show you as proof.I really need help so if 3000 people gave me a dollar I would have $3000 dollars for my son's lawyer fees because you all know this is a serious case my son is being charged for and he needs a lawyer to defend him, it's a shame I am a struggling single parent of four begging something I've never done before to the public, but these are the sacrifices a mother who loves their child has to make, I need help and I'm not afraid to let the world know because there are stll good people out there that are willing to help someone like me out for my child because I need it and can't do it by myself.PLEASE help me!Anything will do at this point I can't refuse nothing.
Ms. Brown, contact attorney Kathleen Zellner at (630) 955-1212. If your son is innocent, she may be able to help you.
http://www.kathleentzellner.com/zellner.html
To the mom and daughter:
I appreciate you coming back here and trying to explain the situation more detail. Like I said earlier, if you want the people here to believe you we (or maybe just me), and I guess you do since you approached this site unsolicited and stated your case, you are going to need more proof. I see that you have provided more; some could possibly sway some opinions here, some may not. Some left me a little confused (I as sure I read a post by one of you elsewhere that said your son/brother had been in jail before, but now you say he's never been). But the passion with which both of you are pleading his case makes me think, at the very least, you truly and honeste believe or know that he is innocent. So I guess I gotta give you the benefit of the doubt.
Also, to the mom (and Craig?): maybe posting your phone number isn't such a good idea. You don't know WHO can be reading this very public blog. Personal information like that can be used by someone else in a bunch of different ways.
Oh, and just because I said I have heard from plenty of moms who swore their guilty kids are innocent doesn't mean I haven't seen moms who swore their kid is innocent and turns out they were.
Good Morning Brown Family,
Welcome to the legal system (walley world), for first time visitors under immense emotional stress my condolences. Remember Justice move at the speed of bureaucracy so no matter what nothing is going to happen quickly.
Just the facts as I can find them and some good ideas for the prosecution/defense.
This is the bond hearing Judge.
Judge Laura Sullivan ordered the bond for James Brown, 19, of W. Wallen Ave.
That is one of the people you will need to prove your sons innocence or possibly reduce bond.
Sometimes it is a different trial judge.
Jury yet to be announced and may not be needed.
However if the state does not see sufficient evidence to drop charges they will retain and prosecute or maybe even strike a deal (the walley world aspect).
Charges,
One count of aggravated battery and two counts of aggravated discharge of a weapon, according to Cook County State's Attorney's office spokesman Andy Conklin.
Either the prosecution or defense can petition to get public and private videos. I suggest that you get on that immediately.
Walk the route of the shooter and look for private or public security cameras. Then get the name and number of the property manager and request/ subpoena video. Look around your house for public and private cameras try to find irrefutable evidence that your son was not the shooter.
I advise that if either side is interested in these events that they move quickly because of the time limitations of digital storage.
Either way, this looks like a pretty even battle so far and I cannot say I favor one side or the other.
BTW this is from some googling of news reports took 190 seconds to media check.
One for the prosecutition or defense. Do you think MC D's has videos?
Babyboy on June 27, 2009 10:03 AM
The boy was walking with his brothers and sister and MOTHER. THe boy got shot in the hip and I ran to see if he was alright. Neighbors came and helped, prayed, and called 9-1-1. Descriptions of the shooter (Latin Kings) were given to the police as well as the shooter's previous location (he started a fight at the McDonald's at Pratt and Clark). Neighbors also said that the shooter and his buddies fled southwest. A neihborhood resident told police he saw a group of Latin Kings running westbound on the 1700 block of Wallen and gave the address of where the Latin Kings in the area hangout. I think myself and my neighbors did everything we could.
Thank You commenter for speaking to me in a much better pont of view, because I understand your stand point because many people do lie but I am doing everything I can to provide proof for my son to anyone listening to me about this case. You sound like a reasonable person! And yes you are right me taking a chance in which some may have not taken to put my numbers out but listen, honestly, my son has to go back to court on July 24,2009 where the states attorney are seaking to indict himand possibly give my son 25 years for a crime he didn't do so at this point I have to takw whatever cance I have to man you really don't know how much I love my son and that he really s innocent but see I am a single parent of four with no money and you know money talks so I have to do it this way I hope you understand. And about me saying my son never been to jail, what I said is he's no angel and he was a former student at sullivan high school where he had mutiple fights with other students and when you have a fight you go to the police station and get a court date so that's what I mean but he's never did time for nothing in jail or prison he's only went to the police station after fighting but came home after the police were done giving him his court date for that particular fight but never for or with a gun just his fist like I told him ,use your hands not weapons if you really must defend yourself.And to the person who gave my the attoney info that may be able to help me and my son Thank You so much because every bit of help is appreciated and well needed ok, you have my deepest Thank You from the bottom of my heart ok! My family also Thank You!
Songia,
Please keep us posted on how this plays out. If your son truly is innocent then I hope the facts get sorted out. Maybe you should place a call to the Tribune? The investigation is more likely to be carried out thoroughly if there is press scrutiny.
Like others I am a little skeptical because, as a mother myself, I think us moms often times go into "denial" when it comes to our own kids misbehaving. However, I tend to believe you are telling the truth so I hope the facts gets sorted out soon.
Good morning! Thank you Lisa for your intelligent comment because people like you along with others who comment on this page are what gives me added hope for my son that there are some good people out there who are following this case along with me to the end because I know like me you guys are interested in seeing how this will play out.And hopefully all evidence will come out and my son will be set free from the Cook County Jailhouse and will be united with his family who is desperate to see him, hold him, talk to him, you know! But I guess we will have to try to be patient and let justice prevail.I am praying through all of this that someone who actually saw the shooter and can id him will come forward asap before my son's record and future is stripped from him because I know someone if not many saw what really happened and they may be afraid to come forward because the media might possibly publicize their face or picture and people will see who told the truth and either the person who's responsible or their freind or family might get upset, so I understand you being scared but there's an even scarier person in jail who's innocent and his family as well are afraid because of this but I his mother am taking a risk everyday talking on this page and to others but I don't care because I am a GOD fearing person and believe I along with others will be fine in doing this.I really want the people who are reading this who may know something, listen empathize to the situation and ask yourself what if someone framed your child and you along with others knew the truth that could set your child free and nobody said nothing.Better yet,knowing the real shooter is still out there and will probably do it againand next time he shoots your loved one and I or someone else saw this person and said nothing and someone's child you knew tkes the rap and g to jail where mentally he will never be the same persn because of waht he or she had to endure while being in a place they've never been before pleading for their life to be free.Now how does that feel?
I am the brother of James Brown and I didn't want to write on this page with my mother and sister because I wasn't ready to deal with any bad remarks about my big brother who I miss badly because we were and are still very very close, it's like a piece of me have died man! I am really being strong for him.I went to visit my brother Wednesday at the County jail and it was hard for me seeing my brother caged like an animal for no reason, now because of this my mom doesn't want me outside anymore afraid someone will do the same thing to me.Man this isn't fair what type of world do we live in?My brother was here in the house how could he have done this,dam why did ths have to happen to my brother? I know someone knows something but seem to not care or value the important role model my brother is for me and my little sister.Why?Man, me and my brother haven't had a father role model in our lives our mother has been all we've had so he is my best friend my heart.And right now we are being strong for each other but am seriously worried about my brother, he tells me to keep talking on the phone with him, write him, come visit him every visit day, because he say's without that he can't make it and feels theres no need for him to live. Now,hey my brother aint soft he says being there makes you go crazy, I hope my brother doesn't do something stupid like take his life feeling theres no hope cause I would just die man you all don't understand what I'm feeling right now it hurts like hell man!GOD please help me get my brother back because he isn't responsible for this at all trust me!
To the brother and mother:
I gotta applaude you both for coming on here and speaking reasonably and trying to make us understand. There have been other situations where things have happened and friends of the suspect/victim have come on here and instead of trying to get people to understand and in turn trying to understand how residents feel, they just started spouting nonsense, making excuses for every negative behavior under the sun and accusing anyone who didn't agree with them of being discriminatory against blacks (including me, which came as shock to this black man). And if it isn't clear, I'm speaking of the whole NuNu saga (search for it here). But gotta say, you both have made me rethink some things and made me see that you're pretty sincere and not making excuses for what happened. It isn't often I see that around here and I've been around here for a long time. For that reason, I hope your son/brother gets some kind of justice, that the absolute truth comes out if he is indeed innocent of the charge. As far as hoping that the "real" shooter comes forward, gotta say that I don't think that's gonna happen so don't count on that. Just get as much proof as you can that your brother was in the house as you said. As someone else here said, check with the stores and apartment buildings in the area that have surveillance cameras in the area and see if you can get a copy from that night; it might show what really happened.
It's a frustrating time in RP. There's a lot of bad stuff going and a lot of people are pissed off and want something done. So maybe the police might be a little too anxious in solving violent crime like this; I don't know. I'm sure all of you are frustrated by the crime going on too. Which is why i was a little doubtful of your story at first. Not any more (call me a pushover). To the little brother, I know it sucks to have your brother in jail, but now YOU have to be the role model for your little sister for a while. And be a role model for your friends. I don't know if you have any friends involved in stuff they should't be involved in, but you have to be the role model to show them that there's another way, that they don't have to fall into the same trap. Turn your back on that stuff and if your friends don't want to join you, sorry to say, you might have to turn your back on them. I've seen what happens out on the street, there's no futuire in gangbanging or hanging out. You can just "hang out" all day when you're 30, 40 50. At some point you have to realize that you can't make a future out of "hanging out" on the corner or banging. There's no retirement plan. Be a role model for your sister and your friends until your brother gets back. The fewer of them involved in stuff like this, the easier it will be to catch the ones who are.
Good luck. Keep us posted on what's happening.
Afternoon! It is me the brother of James Brown,and to the man who responde I would like to extend a thank you man to man your words were encouraging and strong and I really needed to hear somethng like that from a man's point of view. I wish I had had a father around for me and my brother who could have talked to us like that,Thank You Man I really needed that.And you're probably right about the real shooter coming forward,I know but I still had to go for it cause you never know!Also I appreciate you being a patience man to really think before you speak or judge because there have been alot of remarks from people that wasn't too nice towards my mom and my sister but they won't give up because they knew that talkng about this openly would get all sorts of comments but they don't let it stop them for the love of my brother James.And everything you said my mother has been a constant reminder of those facts but you know sometimes we don't like to listen and we wind up suffering the consequences in the long run, now I'm sure my brother is regretting he didn't listen to our mom, but I told him you're going to get out but GOD is teaching and showing a valuable lesson so when you get out you know and understand all the things our mom told you is what I said to him.And I along with my mother and sister will keep you posted because we want eveyone listening and care enough to follow to see the results, and once again Thanks Man!
Hello Songia and family,
There is an anti-violence walk scheduled tomorrow morning at 9:30am in response to the shooting that your son has been charged with. Mayor Daley will be there, as will alderman O'Connor from the 40th Ward. You might consider going as a family to try to get an audience with one of them? I don't know that it would help to have them hear your side of the story, but certainly couldn't hurt. There will likely be members of the press covering the event as well, since the Mayor will be in attendance. Maybe you can speak with one of them? I think the walk starts at Pratt and Ashland, but check www.lakeeffectnews.com for all the details and to confirm the start time. Hope this helps a little...
JB's brother...
No problem. I see too many kids that don't give a damn about anything and anybody (like the person who did the shooting we're talking about, whomever that may be). They don't look to the future, they just look to the next hour. I can understand that kind of attitude if you live in public housing (like I did a lot of years ago), where having any hope for anything is hard. But in this neighborhood, they don't seem to understand they have a great opportunity to expand their horizons, to meet people they can learn from, to learn from people of different backgrounds and not have to do the same thing over and over, make the same mistakes as the person before them and the person before. There's opportunity here if you just look for it. There are people who are more than willing to help a kid who geniunely wants to make his life better. No, it's not easy. No one is just going to hand you opportunity here, but the kids here have to meet them halfway. They have to act like they care about themselves and the place they live. Sadly, I see too many people now here, kids and adults, who don't give a crap, and most of them for no reason. They've already been told that the world is going to cheat them and keep them back and without even trying to find out if it's true, they walk around with a chip on their shoulder for basically no reason, as if they've already given up. And if they don't give a crap about their neighbors or neighborhood, why should anybody give a crap about them? And people who used to care about the neighborhood and wanted to help fix it start getting fed up with the violence and the shooting and all the crap and start to move out and then you've got nothing but a bunch of people who don't give a damn. To be honest, I'm pretty fed up myself as the shooting outside my window and am mostly likely moving myself (although not specifically due to what's going on here).
But you seem pretty smart. Alright, VERY smart. You seem to know that there is more to life than just one day and the next and the next. Despite what happened with your brother, it sounds like our mom did a pretty good job of teaching you to think about people other than yourself. You might now know how important that is, but you will. Just don't give up, for your brother or your mother or your sisters. Don't fall into the trap of thinking there isn't any use in trying. Like I said, when my family moved to Chicago we lived in public housing (Robert Taylor), my parents split up when I was a teenager (although admittedly my dad was still around a lot), I didn't go the best high school in the city, but I think I did OK. A decent job, had some stuff printed in books, traveled to a few places around the world. You should do the same. YOu seem to be learning from whatever mistakes your brother made, which is good. He's going to need that if you plan on helping him. It's not going to be easy, but you can't stop at the first roadblock. There's always a way around it.
Sorry for monopolizing the conversation but just wanted to say that. Good luck. And that's for writing what you did. You may have needed to read what I wrote, but I needed to read what you wrote to to make me remember that not all of the kids I see around here aren't wasting their time. Thanks.
You said yourself that your son has a problem with fighting and is affiliated with gang members. Perhaps his time in jail will convince him to make something of his life when he gets out. It might be most productive to hope that he will learn something from the experience. While your statement that your son is innocent is not convincing, I hope that all the facts will be heard in the end.
Gents,ladies, while this mother certainly appears to be impassioned, you should know that there is no, none,nada pressure to make an arrest simply to make an arrest other than the self-imposed pressure to do the right thing and put the offender in jail. If that takes two days, fine if it takes ten years, not as good as two days but justice served even late is better than no justice at all. Maybe I've just been fortunate to have worked with outstanding people for the past twenty nine years because no one I knows wants to put the wrong guy in jail just to appease a boss or the community. A certain Commander has been gone a long time now.
Mrs. Muckabout, while Ms. Brown said her son had fights, I don't think she said him being affiliated with gangs. She said he may have friends who are. But, nevertheless, I hope that when he gets out (because I'm convinced he's not the shooter. I really think Ms. Brown is telling the truth), he can maybe turn those friends around. And if they don't want to, then he may have to leave them behind.
To Ms. Brown: If any of my comments hurt you, I truly apologize. At first, I didn't believe the story because so many moms lie about their kids, but when you came back with all of the "proof" you did, I knew that James was innocent and that you were telling the truth. I am really hoping the real shooter is caught and pays the time for this disgusting crime. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Timmy, that's all it took to convince you that he's innocent, mom posting her side on a blog? No talking to witnesses, no viewing any physical evidence, nothing besides moms words? If I ever decide to commit a crime I will without a doubt ask that you be on the jury.
@Big Daddy: In all those hundreds of arrests, did you ever arrest the wrong guy? Seems to me a perfect record would be a pretty remarkable thing.
Well, not really, Big Daddy. Like I said, at first I wasn't believing this because you know, lots of mothers like to lie about this type of issue, but if Ms. Brown was lying so much, I don't think she would keep talking like she did. And it wasn't just her. Brown's sister and brother also came on here. They all gave proof that he's most likely innocent.
As for me talking to witnesses and looking at evidence, how am I supposed to do that? I don't live in Rogers Park, remember? But what happens in RP concerns me (at least a little) because I go to school up there. Now if you had (or have) some evidence and could send/bring it to me, then by all means I'll take a look at it.
Timmy, I am certainly not going to investigate or try this case on a blog. I'm merely asking you if if the testimony of three people who have an obvious bias is all that it takes to convince you of the arrestees innocence. I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty. But it would require much more than mom, brother and sister to help me make a decision one way or the other. I would prefer to look at ALL the evidence before I would say that I'm convinced he's innocent. But hey, if your threshold is low, so be it.
Jeff- I have never arrested the wrong guy. In all my major cases (murder, robbery,PSMV), the defendants have been found guilty. That is not unusual, it is the norm. Now, keep in mind, most of those cases have been developed because I either saw the defendant commit the crime or there were one or more witnesses that pointed him out. In addition to that there was usually physical evidence. The only cases I have ever had tossed were in Branch 57 (narcotics court) were the judge rules on probable cause for the arrest. In those cases I have had cases tossed because the judge ruled that the stop was bad. Doesn't mean that the guy was innocent just that the judge believes I never should have stopped him in the first place. Keep in mind that Branch 57 was a snakepit. You could go in there on Monday and get probable cause and go in there on Tuesday and be denied probable cause on the exact same set of circumstances. I've gone in there with cases involving substanial amounts of dope and been denied P/C and gone in there with small amounts and received P/C. One never knew what to expect from the judge.
Howdy Neighbors,
Proof of guilt or innocence has not been established.
That is what the trial will be about. That date will be set July 24. This blog is just a place for us to meet and greet. Howdy!!
I simply suggested that if concerned parties (prosecution/defense) were to inquire about the videos they could. If either wants them they should move quickly before the files are overwritten.
Seems that more than one person named James as the shooter by name not just description again hearsay. The close family members swear that James was home when the shooting happened again hearsay.
Timmy proof is not a verbal testimony, that is called hearsay.
So far it is hearsay vs hearsay unless the state has other evidence.
Hearsay counts for very little in the way of evidence. A mom, brother and sister swearing in court under oath will do very little towards prooving innocence.
Video is not proof but it can be used to backup or refute hearsay.
Likely this entire crime from the argument at Mc D to the shooting and fleeing was captured on video.
Likely this will be two state funded legal teams fighting in an already overburdend legal system on our dime.
Big Daddy has it really been 29 yrs already. Awesome for you and thanks for the service, sense of humor and blah blah.
30 and out?
I think I'll just keep my mouth closed regarding this. I live in Avondale so this doesn't affect me anyhow. Why I even bothered wasting my time on something that happened nowhere near me is beyond me.
@proGun: That is not the definition of hearsay.
If I testify that I saw you at Bob's house, that is direct evidence and is completely acceptable and useful. If I testify that Fred told me that you were at Bob's house, but I did not actually see you there, that is hearsay and should be ruled as inadmissable.
"Verbal testimony" is exactly what is most commonly used in court. How else could witnesses testify? They verbally say what they saw. In this case, Mrs. Brown would be a witness to the fact that her son was home with her.
Of course, witnesses sometimes lie (or, in some cases, are merely mistaken). Juries are there to assess the credibility of each witness and to decide how much credence to give to their testimony.
And in this case, hypothetically, there could be video evidence as to whether the younger Brown was on the scene or not. It could corroborate or negate Mrs. Brown's testimony.
Timmy, you should be concerned about what happens in other areas. We/you are all paying for this. Even though it's miles away it has an effect on all of us. And there's no need to apologize for stating that your convinced the man is innocent. That's your right to feel that way, to form an opinion. All I was saying was is that it's a good idea to look at all the evidence or as much as you can before you come to a conclusion. One should not base a decision on what a relative or a person who has an interest in a situation says. Same thing with believeing what you see or hear on television. Question all of it. I can tell you with absolute sincerity that the newsmedia here does not give you the entire story, that they are biased and unobjective. I don't even watch the news anymore because of that. Same thing with all these talking heads on CNN,MSNBC or FOX. Be skeptical of what they say and want you to believe. The all have an agenda and are biased. I tend to be conservative but I can't listen to Rush, or watch Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly because they don't tell the whole story or they slant the story to promote their agenda. Olbermann is good for a laugh but not for getting a straight news story. Pick and choose. Do research, question all. And that includes what I say. You don't have to believe me. Do a little research. Here's an example in refernce to this story. One of the young man's relatives came here and said they told the Police to watch the video from one of the PODS near the scene of the shooting but that the Police wouldn't listen to her. She wants you to believe that we are going to ignore possible evidence. Here's a tip. One of the first things we do at the scene of a shooting is to pull all the tapes on a POD near a crime scene. In addition, we also look for private sector surveillance tapes to see if they recorded anything. What about a GSR? What if I told you that a GSR was done on this kid and it indicated that he had just fired a handgun. I'm not saying that that did occur, but if it did, would you still be convinced of his innocence? This matter will play out in court. Thats where I will form an opinion as to his guilt or innocence, when I hear or see all the evidence, not what mom, sis or the brother post on a blog. But in any event, it's your right, your obligation to question things, to be concerned about what you think may be an injustice and to help correct that injustice no matter where it occured. Just make sure you have all the facts before labeling it as an injustice. Your a nice, intelligent young man, Don't get sucked into all the hype.
Jeff you are correct.
Big Daddy is correct, lets see what plays out in court.
How will any of you feel if the video...
1. Proves innoncence?
2. Proves Guilt?
Big Daddy, I have to apologize to you. I've been rude lately. There's just so much going on around here and I was a little stressed out. You're correct, I should be paying attention to other areas as well, especially Rogers Park since I go to school there. That's why I was really angered last night when nobody responded to my post about the march (I still am angered, but not at you. More at the residents/fellow bloggers).
I was studying this story for a couple of days before I came up with my conclusion. I want to believe that James is innocent. The mother sounds sincere. But, we'll see what happens in court. I'm hoping it airs on TV or is in the newspaper so I can see it.
You are right that the media in Chicago doesn't give entire stories. I wish they would, but like you've said before, they're in bed with our little pig (Daley).
I tend to believe you since you're a cop of this city, after all. I believe that A LOT of cops tell the truth. Why would they need to lie?
You're right that one of the first things you guys do in things like this is look at the PODs. I've heard on it the scanner and seen it in person.
If you told me that, I'd be a little surprised. That would totally change my opinion about this, though.
And Big Daddy, thanks for your sincere words. I needed that :-).
Hi Timmy,
One of the things we had to do as a high school studet was to attend one trial a year. Most court cases are open to the public so you could see the whole thing play out in person. These are public events.
This might even be good subject matter for a writting assignment.
Hello, Progun. That sounds great. I wish I can do that. I'd like to investigate these kind of things. Good thing that I probably will get into Journalism class next year. I'll ask the teacher if maybe he could take me to one of these :-).
Hello everyone! It is me mom, and unfortuneately I have been gone for a few days and decided to take a break and try not to think about everything, but I am back and so eager to speak to you all.
First, to you Lisa, Thank You so much for informing me on the event with the Mayor, Richard Daley, unfortunately for me and my son I took a leave of absence for some days and didn't take my computer because I needed a break from everything at the moment. I missed something very important and I honestly appreciate you thinking of me and my family and I have the email address you left so I will definitely email them about asap, and hopefully I can get someone to get involved in my son's case.Here is my phone number so you contact me to discuss and talk about anything(773)856-3021 because you sound like a wonderful person who isn't judgemental and very positive and that is what I need right now.GOD I wish me and my family had of been there because this may have been the coverage I need to get my voice out there but I will not stop here I will continue my struggle.Once again Thank You for your support even though we've never met but it's good to know there are still good and concerned people out there who are supportive.
Mom again, to you Ms.Muckabout, yes I said my son had fights I never said his affiliates were gang bangers that is your assumption that his freinds must be gangbangers, and that is fine you are entitled to your opinion but the good bible say's "those that judge will be judged", so that is what I have to say to you because I refuse to degrade myself or you and belittle myself to entertain this type of talking to one another.But I will say it's really sad that people assume before thinking and that sometimes our thoughts are what makes this world such a terrible place to live, but as I know me coming on this page would invite rude and nasty comments from people but I am prepared for whatever people say good or bad because for my son I take that chance, and if you're a mother who loves and knows their child isn't guilty you would without a doubt do the same as me or more so I have nothing evil or rude to say to you but when the truth come out let that help you to restore your train of thought about people and help that
structure you into a person who will have an open mind about things.And this isn't an attact towards you so please don't misunderstand what I say, but I understand where you're coming from because I see it alot but it doesn't affect the words that comeout of my mouth.Anyhow, I thank you fr your comment because it only made me realize I am far more stronger than I realized so Thank You and please do come again so we can talk ok and GOD bless you and your family!
Mom again!To whosoever posted the comment about never have arrested the wrong person.I don't normally assume anything but, forgive me for assuming, but by your words and tone I have to assume you are indeed a cop.
To you, I say I see it alot where cops have made mistakes in their arrest and innocent men go to jail for a long time and the after years it's proven these men were actually innocent so please don't so that.And maybe you've never made a mistake in your previous arrest and your record says so but there's a first time for everything ok.You sound a little hostil, you sre you're right on this or it isn't personal I mean you sound like it to me but hey I've been wrong before and maybe I am this time and if I am ,my apology for that.To you as well I won't began attacking you with foolish comments because I will not feed into the ignorant mentally of what's probably assumed about my son or me becase I am much more mature than that, I'm not afraid I am MATURE ok and that's a big difference.You too have your opinion and whether good or bad you won't stop me from being me because I am determined and learned a long time ago not to let epople's words deter me from doing what I need to do, so I say to you as well GOD bless you to and if you feel comfortable with who you are and what you do continue sir.You see, I don't know you and I don't know your backgroung, but let me inform you, my son has a strong mother and family who loves him and won't stop at nothing to prove his innocence so you go ahead and do what you do you aren't the ruler of this world you are only one voice remember that!So enjoy yourself and have a wonderful day sir.
Mom again!To all,yes I am aware that some of you believe it is only my son's family who say he is innocent, well you are wrong because if you think I only have family testimony in my son's case because you are wrong and I won't mention what I have because people are listening and I don't know exactly who and where the enemy is so I will take all precautions when I say things I am far from stupid ok. I don't mean to sound harsh I am just being me as you see I refuse to degrade myself and let anyone let me say nasty things to no one I am being the bigger person because it's not about you or me it's all about my son who is sitting in jail for no reason no matter what you say and when all evidence is revealed and the truth comes out then I know justice have been served and I will still have nothing bad to say because I will be overwhelmed with joy to be reunited with my son, and maybe some of you don't know what that's like and I understand but to those who do, you know where I'm coming from it feels good as heck!
To all, Thank You because one thing for sure I have your attention and hopefully I will get the attention of someone who was actually there at the scene who can totally identify the shooter so my son can be free and justice can prevail.So to all thank you and I enjoy reading your comments whether their positive or negative because I've learned in life you can't control what people say and that when people say good or bads things it should shape you to be a better person and take what people say and build a bridge and move on.
Me the brother, I have read the comments today and must say wow! But I will not respond back as to I am speechless, but I read my mom's reply to everyone and I am so proud of her in her manner of esponses I sure do learn alot from my mother and I Thank GOD for him letting her be mines.But to the man who alwy's has a positive comment thank you brother for your encouraging words, you say the right thing at the right time!And neither me, my mother ,or my sister will respond to some of those other commentors who are negative because right now my brother is our only true concern right now and this would not make him proud if he knew we were behaving in such a manner and it will not help his case so why bother it's not worth the energy man.But thank you man to man for your continued support and when this is all over and justice prevails you will see my brother is innocent of these charges and we can move on with our lives in peace the way it supposed to be,right!
The sister, I too am not not going to respond with any negative vibes to anyone, but to the guy who to me sounds like he might be a cop, in response to your response on the guy who responded to you, your humor is funny and I needed that laugh but real talk maybe that was all the guy needed to believe in his heart that my brother is innocent and his opinion or belief isn't interferred with by personal view or lack of knowledge with a dose of ignorance so as my mom said have a wonderful day andf GOD bless you!
To Songia and family: I'm pretty sure that alot of us here don't really MEAN to be rude or ingornant, but we've seen things like this so many times. Even though I am not a resident of this neighborhood, I still have my opinion because I attend Sullivan and DO NOT want to be shot while walking the streets with my class. However, since I am a bit angry with some readers here (not you, Big Daddy or Progun. I'm talking about those slackers who rated my post as "boring" yesterday), I believe they may want to be rude.
I'm not trying to be rude or anything towards you and your family, and I'm personally hoping very much that James is innocent. You guys sound pretty sincere and seem to be telling the truth, so I do believe you (at least halfway). If James is innocent, I hope he is let out and whoever else did this disgusting crime should be locked up.
Afternoon! This is the sister, I don't know your name but to the young man who attends Sullivan High School, thank you for explaining yourself,and I do understand where you're coming from because I was a former student at Sullivan and I seen many fights but I made it out safe and I am now about to graduate from a college university next year with a degree in Surgical Tech so I wish you the best and I pray no harm comes your way as long as you are a student wherever you attend because no one deserves to be a victim to street fights or gun violence so you be safe and enjoy your studies.And I know you guys aren't really trying to be rude and I am aware this happens alot where family sa their loved one is innocent and he really isn't, but that truely isn't that case and if justice is done properly you will see as well as everyone else, but I believe you was'nt trying to be rude to me or my family ok!
To James' sister: No problem. I'm glad you got out of there safe. Congrats on you graduating from college university next year. I will also pray for your family. I wish you good luck on this trial.
Mom, yes, I am a Chicago Police Officer and I am extremely proud of it. You can be rest assured that I am VERY comfortable with who I am and what I do. Every single day I get to go to work with some of the best people on this planet and hopefully put a bad guy in jail. If I'm lucky, for the rest of their miserable little lives, and if not,then at least for a very long time. There are few things in life more pleasureable than ridding the community of the "thug" element. But enough about me. Let's talk about you.
Did I say something to offend you? Did I say something that makes you a little nervous? Did I say something to you or anybody else that would indicate my position on this? Did I say something that would make me appear to be "hostile"? Did I say anything that would appear as an ignorant remark or anything about your family? Did I say anything that would appear to be a disparaging remark about your efforts in raising your family? As a matter of fact Mom, did I say ANYTHING to you at all? I didn't think so.
But in any event, thanks for wishing me a good day. I'm out the door, on my way to work. I just hope it's a productive day. I hope I get the honor and pleasure of putting some urban terrorist in jail thereby making it just a little bit safer for the good people in the community. You know, the kind of people that frequent this blog.People like you Mom. Now YOU have a nice day!
Hello, all
Im James Brown older cousin Sabrina Johnson. I would like to say to my cousin Sonia keep ur head up, I love you, I support u 100%, and to the commenters who may or may not believe in James Brown innocence. Some have already condemned James because the media can quickly make innoncent people look guilty. The most important thing has been forgotten considering James innocence until otherwise proven guilty-which is his legal right. The term "due process"should stand for something in James Brown case. To the Chicago Police Officer, James will have his day in court where the prosecutors will have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt James is guilty.
John, that is exactly what I said. Nothing more, nothing less. Your relative will have his day in court. But remember, this blog is not a court room. There is no "due process or probable cause" requirement here. People can and do have the right to voice an opinion. That right is not exclusive to your family.
Hello everyone! It is me mom, and before I began, I'd like to apologize to the respectful commentors who has been supportive and had constructive things to say, but I must respond to this wanna be big daddy.
To you big daddy, you know I've just read your comment and I have to say nothing has changed about you your mouth and your comments are beneath me and you being a cop makes no difference in my life, and in my opinion, you do know what that means...you are probably the typical man who got his butt kicked alot in school so you became a cop because that is your way to be a man or have authority over people and you are probably one of those overweight cops who sit around waiting for a call you know during your one too many coffee breaks. And yes I just can't take anymore of your little sarcastic comments you are senseless,thoughtless, and so empty inside.I mean you get on here telling us this isn't the courtroom but yet you have that enormous mouth of yours running.News-Flash I am not scared of you and you're right you unfortuneately are entitled to your opinion and for what its worth don't mean one thing to me, so you're a cop you give yourself a hug but really who are you, you're just another person, so sorry if you're looking for an award for outstanding cop sorry this isn't the time or the place so I suggest you go do some work and protect and serve the streets and get your lonely ass off this blog looking for some attention, I mean there may be some serious crimes in progress and you're here running that big fat mouth of yours give me a break no one wants to hear your mouth get off the page cop.And you can resond whatever you like becase you or your stupid little words can hurt me you don't run nothing but that mouth, and oh! for the record people probably thought we'd never see a Black man run this country as President, you know, people like you ,a lonely big mouthed empty person who is the world's only cop,right you would love that! But I say that to say to you cop, that anything is possible today, I mean you obviously passed the test to be a cop, so you see my point.And to all the other commentors who are reading this, I am sorry for speaking like this but he had it coming and if you've read all his comments you should hopefully understand.Back to you mr.cop, go do some real work I guess they haven't given you much to do because you are here so maybe your Chief In Commander or Sergant feel you are not in shape to handle such a heavy load, because alot of chicago cops are far too heavy, you know not in shape and overweight don't know if that applies to you but if it does use less time coming here and more time in the gym so you can catch even more bad guys as you say,cop! And if my comment offended you,GOOD because you deserve it with that big mouth of yours.I can tell you are a lonely person and no one is around to show you any love but maybe if you change that negative mouth of yours someone will show you love you evil man with no heart.REMEMBER this YOU are nothing to me and you are empty space,a f... wasted and respond whatever you like as I said at this point I don't mind chewing you out because you need ATTENTION right now because you're so EMPTY a VOID so I understand.
Mom again! To you cop, my cousin said what she said, then there you go again running that big mouth of yours this isn't a 911 call requesting for back-up which of course must be you because you're the great one, yeh! you wish.She didn't sat this was the court room, she like you and others on this blog are stating their opinions,no one said anything to you, but I sure did and I will continue saying things to you if that's what you want, because you need attention because you obviously don't get what you're looking for as being a cop.Newsflash! You aren't, and this blog is probably the only attention you get and this is how you get noticed because I haven't heard of you and any other chicago cop for that matter receiving an outstanding award or accomodation for your work.OOPS! I mean you big mouth!
And I alway's end my comment even after some commenters are rude with have a good day or GOD bless you, but for you I can care less if I never heard your mouth, and I won't tell you to have a nice day I don't care if you are granted another day because people like you have no place in this universe because you are poison and I would hate to see your poison spill over and affect others, you are a cruel thoghtless person, and you are evil with your words leave this page I don't care to hear you, and that is my opinion but I'm sure others agree but may not have the guts to tell you because you're a cop, well I'm not scared get lost LOSER!
Hi Everyone,
Big Daddy is a great cop.
Do not know how to respond to all the Browns negative comments but this guy is a great cop and he never disrespected any of you with his comments.
I do not always agree with his comments but he has a phenomenal, accredited career. I respect his point of view because he been there and done it.
If your son is innocent then I am truly sorry for your inconvenience and will will use every means necessary to bring members of this community together to look for the real shooter.
If he is found guilty then I will use every means necessary to bring members of this community to see he gets and serves the maximum.
Good Luck.
My opinion has totally changed about all of this. After reading the latest comments from Ms. Brown, I'm sorry, but now I'm pretty sure that James was probably the shooter. I think you crossed the line disrespecting Big Daddy like you did. I'm not a cop and wouldn't want to be a cop (I'm interested in police work, though, which is why I plan on becoming a police dispatcher after high school), but I DO respect the police. Even though I've butted heads with cops sometimes (mostly with the whiny and the "commenting on jobs" ones because they complain so much), I thank God for the police every single day. They try to make our city safer, for YOU, the readers here, and myself and they do NOT deserve the disrespect you just gave here, Ms Brown.
How would you know if Big Daddy got his butt kicked in school or not? I bet he didn't. I bet he became a cop because he was tired of all this crime, or maybe because he wants to lock criminals up and make this city, neighborhood, whatever, a safer place for YOU and everyone else here.
How would you know if he's overweight or not? A comment I read from him a while back said he was in excellent shape.
You SHOULD be scared of the police. They've got mace, a billy club, a taser and a gun on them, so you better watch what you say to the police. If I were getting arrested (and this probably applies to most others here), I would just keep my mouth shut. Sure, it may not be FAIR you're getting arrested, but do you really want to resist and fight the police? I don't think so. I've seen in person what can happen to you.
YOU may not want to hear what Big Daddy says, but I do. He's been a cop for over 30 years so I really do think he has wisdom when it comes to this bull crap. And I'm sure most others like hearing him too. He's not a waste of time, either. Without him around, there are a couple of things that I wouldn't know.
Big Daddy does have a place in this world. To stop criminals like these cheap thugs on the street from wreaking complete havoc, to stop robbers, to stop people from committing ramdom Battery and so on.
Ms. Brown, do you know why I say that my opinion has changed? From your total disrespect to a cop. That shit (excuse my langugage) is UNCALLED for. How would you like it if James was called a loser, or he has no place in this universe?? You wouldn't like it, would you?
My opinion has also changed because since you disrespected Big Daddy like you did, you may have taught James to disrespect the police like that too, which is why I'm now not surprised that the cops always said something when they heard James' name.
If my comment upset you, I'm sorry, but so be it. I don't like all of this disrespect that Big Daddy has gotten from you. And if I'm a two face or anything to you, then to that I also say so be it. I'm sick and tired of all this bull shit.
PoGun, Timmy, thanks for the kind words and show of support. I was not going to respond to Songia Browns post because frankly, I thought it would be lowering myself to her level and I didn't want to do that. But I could not let your words go un-noticed nor did I want to appear ungrateful.
For the record,I never once commented one way or the other regarding hers son's guilt or innocence. I have an opinion but I kept that to myself. All I ever did was to encourage Timmy to seek out the truth based upon the evidence, not what a person with an obvious bias says. You might also remember that I told him to question everybody including me regarding not only this but other matters as well. I never once tried to get him to change his opinion. Not once. If Timmy or anybody else wants to think that James Brown is innocent, so be it.
I could go on and on in response to Songia Browns post regarding me. But why bother? I think you will agree that her post speaks volumes about her. But thanks for the support and kind words. I will continue to earn that support and do what I can to make this City as safe as I can from those whose only goal or accomplishment is the destruction of good communities and the people that reside in them.
Thanks again.
A note to Ms. Brown and her family. Big Daddy is well respected on this blog. He's always been fair and honest with his comments.
I'm trying to give every side a chance to give their point of view. Please be more careful with your words in the future.
Like I said, Big Daddy, my opinion totally changed after what she said. Quite frankly, I no longer think James is innocent. If she disrespected you like that, I can only imagine what James did.
I'm sorry I have to be cruel, but I just don't like disrespect towards our cops like that (except for the ones who whine all of the time and just come for the money). And on top of it, we just had a shooting down here in Avondale last night and there is most likely going to be a retailation shooting.
Ms.Brown,
To Craig, I am sorry if you think my words were abusive to that particular cop, but if you thought my comment was not proper why did you allow it to be posted? You have my phone number you could have called me to advise me to caution my words and I would have because you were kind enough to allow me to get on this blog and to freely talk to other commentors.
But if you feel I was wrong my apology to YOU for doing that, but you have to understand you and I are at different point of views here and I am the mother of the accused and when people speak in a not so good way about my son t bothers me and only I feel that so try to at least empathize for taht at least.
I am on this page because it allows me to speak on my son's behalf, to let people know how I feel but I am human and I have feelings.And why are you coming down on me others on here have said some things like the more current ones are you going to tell them to caution their mouths as well because it's only fair no matter who it is, but I will definitely watch what I say from now on ok, and anytime you feel my or anyone elses comments are inappropriate don't post them in the future.
Have a wonderful day Craig and I look forward to hearing from you whether it's by this blog or you telephoning me.
Ms.Brown speaking I will be the bigger person and say I APOLOGIZE to anyone who may have been offended by my words but I meant no harm its just that I didn't feel some of you weren't being equally careful with your words when you spoke of my son or people who had good things to say in my son's behalf.
So lets make a deal,if either of us have consructive critcism to say towards one another lets not say nothing at all, and I feel I have a reason to stay on this blog, I speak of nothing else except my son but I am also concerned about other people and what is going on in the community because I too live here and want to be aware so lets get along ok. afterall we should be coming together to make our community stronger and if all we are going to do to one another is fight we are allowing the possibility to getting nothing solved so lets find peace because between us and move forward with our lives, thank you all!
Big Daddy, could we talk over email? I just had an incident with a call taker from 911 and would feel better taking to a police officer about my situation.
How did it go in court?
JAMES BROWN FOUND GUILTY OF SHOOTING AND SENTENCED TO 8YEARS IN IDOC. I GUESS HE WAS GUILTY. WHAT DOES MAMA BROWN HAVE TO SAY NOW.
I SAY ANOTHER GANG BANGER OFF THE STREET AND I FEEL SAFER
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