Monday, September 14, 2009

Zip Code Change Doesn't Stop Crime Around Loyola University

Looks like the change in zip code didn't do anything to stop the crime that plaques Rogers Park.
"Since Aug. 28, one student was robbed at knife point, another avoided robbery at knife point, one man was charged with criminal trespass in Mertz Hall and three men were charged with criminal trespass in Simpson Hall..."

...."Jackie Courtney, a freshman from California who lives in Mertz Hall, said she didn't really think about safety before coming to Chicago. "It was a little uncomfortable [finding out about the trespasser] because I live here," she said. "I thought because I'd be on campus I'd be fine." ...."
Crime hits students.
Maybe Jackie Courtney should've done some research before just picking a school so near Rogers Park. Isn't that what's higher education is all about?

Every Block Crime Stats: Crime in 60626.

14 comments:

Unknown said...

I have absolutely no idea but my guess is that students would be a target for crime at most large urban universities. Do they have problems at De Paul? I lived in that area for quite a while and don't remember reading about a lot of crime but there certainly were not the same number of "goofs" around either.

Man On The Street said...

I said here before that the crime in Rogers Park is going to affect enrollment at Loyola (or at least the north campus) someday and they brushed me off. Trust me, it may take a few years to manifest itself, but incidents like this are helping students make the choice to transfer they were debating about.

Hillari said...

I suspect that Jackie is from a small town where people don't lock their doors. When I was going to Northern Illinois, I was around a lot of small town kids. Some were aware of big city crime. Unfortunately, a lot of them weren't.

That's no excuse for students not doing the research before they go away to school, however. It appears that Loyola may be playing down crime statistics, in order not to scare off potential students. If that is true, than the university is doing students a grave disservice.

Clark St. said...

There's a new TV ad for Loyola narrated by Loyola's most famous grad, Bob Newhart [who sounds like he's half-dead BTW].
I'm pretty sure there isn't a single shot taken at the Rogers Park campus.
Even when being by the lake is mentioned in the ad, the scene is from around the Oak St Beach showing the Hancock Building!

The crimes against the students almost all fall into the same type: Stupid kid from small town is out late at night, wears headphones & doesn't pay attention to their surroundings or the people on the street. I see college kids giving money to bums all the time. They're soft touches for anything even remotely resembling a sob story. Eventually, they get near the wrong person & get robbed or beaten.
Loyola needs to give the out of towners lessons in city living before class starts!

The North Coast said...

Almost every university in a major city is in a high-crime neigborhood. Rogers Park is nowhere near being the worst neighborhood a university was ever located in.

Universities do a very poor job of orienting their incoming students from small towns and sheltered rich suburbs to their new surroundings. The kids trust everyone and are extremely careless about their personal safety. They stroll down alleys late at night with their headphones on or talking on the phone, let strangers get much too close to them, and don't know how to vet the people they hook up with socially.

The university authorities should take responsibility and remember that a kid just graduated from high school and unused to fending for himself needs training in personal safety.

Claire said...

What do you hear about a shooting in broad daylight at Sheridan and Lunt about 5 p.m. today? Can't find any news about it elsewhere...

Craig Gernhardt said...

Sorry, I was busy at work.

newgarder said...

Perhaps a larger variety of ethnic,racial,class,gender and orientation at the university level would,as a social remedy,prohibit criminal opportunism at colleges.

If the schools in our country's communities aren't secure then where is an institutional safe haven?

Definitely not in New Haven.

At least that's what Annie Le
must be thinking.

Razldazlrr said...

newgarder? what is your first paragraph supposed to mean? There is nothing but diversity on college campuses.
The Annie Le story is absolutely horrible. I'm not sure there's a lot the police could have done (unless we find out something new)

lafew said...

Crime isn't sweet on Harvard Yard, either. It depends on where you choose to live in 'Bean Town.' Craig, this is Chicago, not Moscow, Idaho or Bardstown, Kentucky.

Some give,others take! Some who live give, some of us take. We depend on those who give to get those that take. We also depend upon some who give to show that it eventually makes a difference. Significant improvements will not happen overnight in sudden soundbites.

Give a little bit! That should be the overall message to residents. If you want to end crime, not only report what you witness, call it in and be there for police. Respect your neighbors. RP statistics show a relatively constant drop in crime, with some minimal blips for misdemeanors [up 7 incidents per annum on one 2424 stat].

RP appears to be down on the more serious crime statistics over the last ten years! This makes sense. We should not resort to old history. The Trib completely forgot the family who was slain in Wilmette by 'daddy dearest' last March in its recent article. Those were homicides, too, Trevians! Lest we forget about Laurie Dann and that handgun ban!

Why not contrast the Beats? The density? The education rate? The teen pregnancy issue, if any, at Gale School and Sullivan with its consequences? The decision by some dedicated parents to ignore public education that seems reasonable at some local schools? Who are our local examples?

Why not show why life is better and where it improves in RP? What about the 'instituted racism' up north that makes most Northshore cities over 96 per cent white (look at the elementary school stats)? What is an artificial existence for $500? Does apartheid still exist in the U.S.?

Why does reasonable integration seem to come to a screeching halt in Evanston and Skokie? Or at Bronzeville for that matter? Is it fear or money?

As you may have read, I have been in and out of RP since early sixties. My family has been present in RP since the thirties. We have an In Torrens title to prove it. I have also read the sensational articles early on in RP's History. Drinking gin in cars has dipped since prohibition! Much dilapidation has disappeared. Of course, we still have prohibition of one sort or another. Police have that responsibility, among others.

Craig, where's the beef? Surf www.cityofchicago.org! Post the Police pdf poster on your blogspot for distribution (if possible)! Otherwise, this is just 'muffled drag' and I don't know that you are a 'drag queen,' are you? Quien es el macho?

Kevin said...

Some stereotypes never die. I've met some small-town types who are *terrified* of anything "city" and probably wouldn't walk within a few hundred feet of panhandlers. (And, yes, that would be an overreaction. But, it's simple-minded to think they'd all be gullible rubes.)

Similarly, some parts of large U.S. cities are as sterile and sheltered as the suburbs of myth. Kids from those areas might have too much trust in some city types.

newgarder said...

Hey Razldazlrr-

-that first paragraph admittedly was intended as a tongue-in-cheek ruse.

Yet,while searching for information on YALE after yesterday's official announcement of the gruesome discovery I was surprised to discover that 50% of the Yale student body,on a pie graph,is caucasian.

The Dirty Business Bath Co. said...

This is an issue with staffing of the campus police. If there is more of a presence there is far less crime.

Sticky Fingers said...

I think it would be highly beneficial for the Campus Security to have a safety orientation...but let's face it how many kids are really going to pay attention? Also, consider the fact that a lot of times students have late nights on campus at the library/lab etc, or they work service industry jobs where they likely get home late.

I'm a Loyola grad and I feel like I received a top notch education, and yeah it's certainly shady area at nigh (I had my share of scary encounters). However, I don't think it is better or worse than being a student at U of C in Hyde Park or UIC or Rush. I hope the crime doesn't scare off potential students, as I feel they would be missing out on a great experience at LUC.

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