Wednesday, January 3, 2007

* Alderman Touts Green

His Record Proves He's A Liar

When Alderman Moore talks about "Green-Space," one only needs to look at his track record. At a campaign contributor funded infomercial awhile back, Alderman Moore did his best to defend the amount of "Green-Space" in his ward along with a condo development project that was taking away prime "Green-Space."

At the time of the meeting only one candidate (Gordon) came out to debate the need to replace a valued green space garden with more cookie cutter condo units. There were no Ginderske's or Adams at the meeting. They must not have cared about the community at that point in time. Fran Tobin's group, the Rogers Park Community Action Newtork had a petition gathering campaign to save the green space on Greenleaf.

But the Alderman and his developer pal promised us the need for more condos instead. They said they knew what they were doing.

Well, now, the cookie-cutter condo's are built - and they're not selling. The advertisment on the sign as you can see from the above photograph says that. They're now trying to rent them out now at most likely un-affordable rates?

That wasn't part of the plan presented. That wasn't part of the infomercial. The Alderman and his developer pal duped the community again. But what else is new? The only thing green the Alderman cares about is the money in HIS pocket.

22 comments:

fedup dem said...

If you are wondering why there are not more comments to the report that Alderman Moore was lying, that may due to the fact that the statement falls under the catagory of "dog bites man," and is all too commonplace. Now a report stating that Alderman Moore was telling the truth for a change, that would be a "man bites dog" story.

Toto said...

Day 8: No endorsement. Hugh how close is the race?

Anonymous said...

JoMo must have had another lunch meeting with Helen Shiller. Helen has been touting the green thing for a couple of months now, and wrapping herself around the Democratic party.

It's all a load of crap.

Throw all the bums out next month.

Hugh said...

Steve Golovan's company Castlebar is THE leader in tear-downs in Rogers Park and THE leading importer of concrete block into our community. Blades of grass tremble at their approach.

Golovan is also one of the leading purveyors of Section 8 housing in our neighborhood, perhaps THE leader in terms of number of units south of Howard.

Although he does not live in the ward, and although his business office is in the 39th ward, Mr. Golovan is among Ald. Moore's most generous supporters.

Castlebar Operating Trust Account
2636 N Lincoln Av
Chicago, IL 60614

$1,000.00 on 7/16/2003 to Citizens for Joe Moore

Active Equities, LLC
2636 N. Lincoln Av
Chicago, IL 60614

$1,500.00 on 1/16/2004 to Citizens for Joe Moore
$1,500.00 on 1/16/2004 to Citizens for Joe Moore
$1,000.00 on 10/24/2002 to Citizens for Joe Moore
$1,000.00 on 6/14/2002 to Citizens for Joe Moore

$6,000.00 reported since 2002.

For some reason, Mr. Golovan prefers not to put his name on any of his contributions to Joe Moore.

More on Moore & Golovan's contributions ...

Castlebar Tear-Down Gallery

Hugh said...

The fire house? You're bringing up the fire house? I can't believe it!

A new fire house for Rogers Park is Moore's SECOND favorite re-election issue, behind only the Gale Park field house. I know it's a favorite issue of his because he runs on it EVERY 4 YEARS: 1991, 1995, 1999, 2003 ...

and now 2007!

Wow, that RPCAN is one POWERFUL organization! Those bastards! They blocked Alderman Joseph A. Moore, 4-term Alderman from the 49th Ward of the City of Chicago, from building a new fire station for 16 YEARS!

ChitownRog said...

I have a few questions for those of you who despise "the developers" as if they were the source of all the world's evil...

1.) Why would you root for them to fail? What do you have to gain by their losing money?

2.) What benefit does low income housing bring to the area?

You people bitch and moan that there's not enough "affordable" housing, and then you also bitch that there's too much crime. I don't think it's the people who just paid $250,000 for their condo that are causing all the trouble.

Seriously... Beyond making you feel good about helping someone live beyond their means, what good does giving someone an apartment they can't afford do for the rest of us? Market rate isn't all that much in Rogers Park. If you're expected to pay market rate, what makes it ok for someone else to live here even though they can't afford it?
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Isaac Marshall said...

taking care of u:

who says that renters are more involved in the neighborhood than condo owners?

paradise:

quit blaming the economy, the banks, and housing prices for the stupidity of people who can not turn down a loan that they can not afford. it is called personal responsibility. they had a choice and they signed the papers. they may not have been informed, but with such a big decision on their hands that is not an excuse!

proGun said...

The Schwarzenegger effect. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was one of the few Republicans to survive the tectonic shift towards Democratic candidates last election. A big reason for Schwarzenegger's success: He turned green.

Jordan.Vielehr said...

Craig,

What is considered a cookie cutter condo? Are you an architect or have experience in construction?

Do you think the problem selling this property is because it is a "cookie cutter condo"? Or could the reason be that the housing market crashed in May.

What is wrong with the builder now trying to rent out the property? I would rather have people renting out the property than it abandoned for the next 6 months.

Why do you consistently speak on issues that are irrelevant to anything in this neighborhood? I believe this building is on Ridge. This building and the one next to it seem to clean up the street a little.

By you living in a shit hole does not make you an expert on how condos are constructed

Craig Gernhardt said...

Jordon said.....>"What is considered a cookie cutter condo?"

Later Jordon said...." I believe this building is on Ridge."

You answered your own question Jordon. These condos in the photograph are located in the 1500 block of Greenleaf. The link is in the story. They look like those you mentioned on Ridge too.

They could be located on Ashland or Farwell or anywhere else. They're called cookie-cutter condos because they all look the same. If you don't believe me, ask Gordon Jordon.

Jocelyn said...

I've seen that those particular condos have been slow to sell, but I've seen others that sold super fast. Sometimes it has to do with the price or the reputation of the developer.

Of course things are slowing down, but I don't wish to see people going belly up. We are all in the same boat to an extent. And we all go down with the ship.

The "donations" from developers to pur Alderman definitely look bad. I don't care if "all the Alderman do it." This is what's wrong with our system.

Regarding green space, I am pretty certain that RP has less green space than many other neighborhoods or maybe it was park space I read about. This surprised me when I read it, but per person we have less park services than a majority of communities in Chicago. Thus the need for the Gale Fieldhouse.

Toto said...

Ha ha ha.

Craig doesn't like new condos. Is it because he lives in an older rehabbed condo an the bright shiny new condos have more appreciation.

Craig lives in a building without parking. Most new construction requires one parking space per condo. Old condo conversion that don't have parking are the ones causing the problem, not new construction. (We have met the enemy and he is us.)

You want green space Craig, get out your check book and buy it. Are you willing to do this?

Who are you supporting for change Craig????????

RPnayboor said...

Hughie wrote:
"Steve Golovan's company Castlebar is THE leader in tear-downs in Rogers Park...."

Hughie dear, this development was NOT a teardown. What happened was the owner of a vacant lot being used for free by the community decided to exercise his rights as a property owner and sell his vacant lot to a developer. And that developer built this residential development.

That's called free enterprise. God bless America.

RPnayboor said...

Hughie wrote:

"Although he does not live in the ward, and although his business office is in the 39th ward, Mr. Golovan is among Ald. Moore's most generous supporters."

Although Hughie does not live in the 49th Ward, and although Hugh's business is not in the 49th Ward, Hughie is one of the biggest critics of Joe Moore on this and other blogs.

That's called free speech. God Bless America.

And Golovan is also free to support whomever he wants to support. That's called free enterprise. God Bless America.

RPnayboor said...

Paradise wrote:
"Joe Moore should have been able to deliver a new fire house long ago..."

...And yet you also write very earnestly and fervently about the rights of property owners.

A buddy told me that this whole fire house thing took so long because the property owner held out for more money than the city was willing to offer. So tell me how Joe Moore can have some control over that? How he "should have been able to deliver a new fire house long ago" when the property owner was holding out for more money. Isn't that his perogative? What does Joe Moore have to do with that. Seems like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Hugh said...

oh, sure, Golovan is enthralled by Moore's brand of progressive politics

right

it's not free enterprise

it's a corrupt elected official selling the services of his elected office for cash

Hugh said...

god bless America

Joe Moore

keeping Rogers Park safe for corruption

Hugh said...

> God Bless America.

> ... this whole fire house thing took so long because the property owner held out for more money than the city was willing to offer.

Rogers Park is still in America, isn't it? Isn't it still up to the owner of property how much it sells for.

> ... there were other properties for the firehouse that the city could have acquired ...

And of course that's EXACTLY what they're doing. The plan is the firehouse is going in on west side of Clark, south of Devon, north of Ridge.

Blaming RPCAN or the owners of the MegaMall are excuses for Moore's incompetence that only someone with their head deeply embedded in Moore's ass could make.

Hugh said...

Here's the link & by-line to the posted text.

Howard plans move ahead
December 20, 2006
By LORRAINE SWANSON News-Star Staff Writer

Isaac Marshall said...

hugh:

the firehouse on Clark street is to replace the firehouse on Rosemont, not the one on Greenleaf. I believe both are over 100 years old.

there is still no plan to build a new firehouse replacing the one on Greenleaf. also, unlike other city buildings, shouldn't firehouses be put in strategic locations and not willy-nilly just because they can find land that is affordable?

Isaac Marshall said...

rp dude:

three engine companies are not dispatched to a fire call and then one returned. check your facts on that one.

also, the new firehouse on clark street, south of devon has been in the planning stages for years, and last i saw was still an empty lot. just think how long it will take before a new firehouse near the mega mall is built!!!

Bill Morton said...

taking_care_of_u said...
"Hooray for Rogers Park Community Action Network! Don't forget that this is the same group who successfully fought to save the retail anchor of the neighborhood; the Mega Mall. Don't forget that Joe Moore wanted to destroy it to build a new fire station."

Well, you wrote that on January 3rd .. and now it's August 3rd of 2007. Moore did do a teardown "for the new firestation", but where is this new firestation?

I think you get the point.

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