Initially, it was the community that invited Ald. Moore, developer Paul Gougen, and other selected persons in a letter of April 7, 1997 to a meeting to discuss possibility for the community to partner with a developer as a way to build and operate such a center.
Initially, the NSC brought up the idea of a youth center at every meeting by a developer, and researched other funding possibilities, including our legislators.
Initially, the NSC visited five other youth centers, three being the YMCA, Boys and Girls Club, and Marillac House, to find out how they designed, paid for, and operated their centers, and how the community was involved in running the programs or serving on their boards. The NSC, with the assistance of Loyola University's Center for Urban Research and Learning program surveyed the community on types of programming needed, and got space estimates on building size. It looked at the Rogers Park Movers' 6-story building on Paulina as a site, and Loyola architects drew up plans as to how it would look if utilized for such a purpose.
On May 20, 1997, Ald. Moore talked about the need for a youth center in his state of the ward address and hinted that it could resemble a park field house. He formed a youth center subcommittee, and on Sept. 22, 1997, the NSC received a memorandum from him to come to a meeting at which Rudy Mulder, the first developer of the Gateway Plaza, pledged $500,000 toward the project. No further youth subcommittee meetings were held, yet on Dec. 10, 1997 the Alderman, without any acknowledgement of the NSC or its work, unveiled the Gale-Kiwanis Park Plan. There was no real discussion or way to negotiate divergent points of view and over the next months groups were forced to vote for the plan up or down.
From then on, it was the Alderman's plan, his project. The rest is history that everyone knows, and how the community has had to fight for information and for meaningful involvement in the project they conceived and initiated.
Sr. Cecilia Fandel OSM
Gale Park Advisory Council
Former organizer for NSC
Regarding Ald. Moore's e-mail [notifying 49th ward residents that the proposal to house a Boys and Girls Club at the Gale Community Center] that closed with: "In the coming months, I will redouble my efforts to bring a full-time Boys and Girls Club to the 49th Ward, and I invite everyone, including those who opposed the Boys and Girls Club at the Community Center, to work with me to identify a funding source and location for such a club."
I suggest he contact Principal Richard Glass at the Gale Math and Science Academy who stated in a letter dated July 9, 2008, "I am writing this letter to express my very strong desire to have the Daniel Cotter Boys and Girls Club partner with the Gale Academy, becoming a new School-Based Club." This is exactly what Save Our Community Center, the Gale park Advisory Council and the over 400 S.O.C.C. petition signers have been advocating since learning of Moore's 'backroom deal' to privatize the long awaited Chicago Park District Community Center. And his statement that the Community Center was "originally envisioned as a Boys and Girls Club" is a complete fabrication. No one who has been involved in the 12-year effort of planning and advocating for a Park District Community Center, EVER heard or discussed the idea that it was "originally envisioned as a Boys and Girls Club." Enough with the spin and twisting of the truth (dishonesty), Alderman!
You need to start focusing on the serious issues and needs facing ALL the residents of the Ward.
Mike Luckenbach
Save Our Community Center (SOCC)
Rogers Park
22 comments:
As stated on the other board, this is classic Joe. Let someone else do all the thinking and leg work, then take it over and present it to the world as HIS effort.
Joe needs to go.
so, mike, sr. seems to contradict you, if one of the original models for you people wanted was boys and girls club. perhaps both parties differed in how much they liked/used that model. but it sounds to me like it was there.
and rogersparking sounds like the typical bloghead. joe could shit a gold brick and y'all would whine for platinum.
no project like this gets built without a lot of the alderman's time and trouble. if you think joe did nothing, you live in lalaland.
it also usually takes turning a tin ear to certain people who are there more to be headman than to be part of anything. that is just something leaders have to do. some people just do not bring anything to the table but their mouths.
so, how is the fundraising drive for the gale bgc shaping up?
Been there:
I appreciate your thoughtful analysis. Is it based on your detailed observations or simply your infinitely superior intellect?
I didn't think so, either.
Now kindly close your brainless yap and keep any future ignorant rantings about me to yourself.
Any questions?
i would recommend staying off the blogs is you don't want anyone to say anything that hurts your itty bitty feelings rp.
and thanks for your thoughtful comments. don't forget to flush.
Mo the crayola artist weighs in with yet another gray matter inspired comment.
Aren't Curly and Larry waiting for you somewhere?
And just out of curiosity, Mo. Is it true your birth certificate includes an apology from the condom factory?
Initially, the NSC visited five other youth centers, three being the YMCA, Boys and Girls Club, and Marillac House, to find out how they designed, paid for, and operated their centers, and how the community was involved in running the programs or serving on their boards.
Mo's attempted analysis: "one of the original models for you people was boys and girls club" is great! If one goes window shopping to get ideas on how to decorate a room it does NOT mean one is replicating the display model - it simply means 'getting ideas'.
Let's ignore the 'you people' stuff...those are the words that cause her pal to SCREAM 'racist' when anyone outside the inner circle utters them.
Get it?
SAomehow when i read this I get the feeling that someone thinks theyh 'invented' the idea of a communith park. Duh!mSome of you , not as old as I, don't know before all the lucrative building improvement North of Howard Street, there was a park there. It did serve needs of the community! Does anyone know that there used to be an iceskating pond at the park?
Park District Prgrams?After school activies.....a playground.....baseball games.....it used to be real nice.
It sounds like the Park District needs to post signs like back in the day on who the playground equipment is for.
While no moore coninues to "search" for a home for the boys and girls club, does he so quickly forget he approved the tear down of the old North Shore School......mmmm.....ok.......let's see......where else in Rogers Park .............ah!!!!!!!!!!!
What about the space at Leon Beach. There are rooms there. But Joe certainly doesn't support one of THE most successful programs throughout the ciy of Chicago. The Junior Guard Program...........no no moore has never been involved....it was Alderman Pat O'Connor.....it still confuses me...but it was one of THE most registered programs and then BOOM!
Taken away! I doubt that would be good enough for The Boys and GirlsClub....wht about Loyola Park.....this is a well utilized facility with lots of space......what is wrong with the
Annex at Gale School.
It is all about him - nothing about this community - like Barack Obaama said last night this elections isn't about him it is abgout the citizens of the USA
no moore should heed his advise
toni,
you know darned well what i mean by 'you people'. what would you prefer? you gordonaughts? you bitter enders? should i go on?
Mo- Your attempted analysis failed and you jump on the 'you people' phrase instead of explaining your failed attack. Your pal used a similar phrase in a meeting not long ago. Made a horses arse of himself in the process - people noted his remark as racist!
You've called people many names who are not in line with Moore's thinking so why stop now? Its just a reflection of the dictatorial mentalitly we are supposed to deal with in a so-called democracy.
"Gordonites?"
Jesus, Mo, let it go.
toni,
you know good and well that i have not dished out 1/10th the names that i have been called. i rarely bother to post such insults. my patience is tried often, and i do dig sometimes. but most of my comments are models of civility compared to what people say about me.
feel free to waste you time digging up my posts that fit your description. it will take me about a minute and a half to counter whatever you can find.
been there is an asshole. And her art sucks.
see toni. i don't even have to leave this thread.
If the shoe fits, been there...
no billy joe, the shoe doesn't fit at all.
Sure it does. You're condescending, long-winded, and predictable. And boring. Screamin' Mo Cahill, indeed.
Mo, it might be different if you actually had something to say. You simply gripe and whine, then bring up the last election again. You attempt to verbally assault anyone who thinks Joe isn't doing a good job (and I've yet to see the blog dedicated to his upstanding level of service), yet nobody is more devisive than you.
You simply have nothing to say. We all get that you don't like the general dissatisfaction with Joe. Sorry, but that's just how things are.
what i don't like is to see people living in lala land. people complaining that things are getting worse, when it is plain to me that they are getting better. people do not seem to know much about the history of rogers park, and how it got to be what it is.
i find it hard not to correct people blaming joe for things that he has nothing to do with, and no power to change.
i know for a fact the these blogs are full of "inaccuracies" because many things have been said about me that are simply untrue.
is it divisive to stand up for the truth in the midst of a pack of lies? i suppose so. i wear it as a badge.
Blah, blah, blah, blah. More wasted air from Mo.
I never thought anyone could waste internet space on the World Wide Web until I met Mo Cahill.
Badge? Ha ha. Your "local activism" amounts to parroting the wishy-washy proclamations of Joe Moore. How lame. Sure Joe gets a lot of blame here-some undeserved-but that just balances out his taking credit for anything halfway positive that happens in RP. Your boyfriend can handle the criticism, so put your hairshirt away.
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